[time-nuts] time-nuts] FTS 1050A

2011-08-09 Thread ed breya
You're right, Max, I didn't think about subsampling for this - that would give a more efficient implementation - no LPF, say two 74HC390s to divide by 10,000, a 74HC74 with one half as a divide by two to get to 20,000, the other half as the sampler/downconverter, and a 74HC4046A PLL. So, four c

Re: [time-nuts] FTS 1050A

2011-08-09 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Max Robinson wrote: If you use a D flip flop as a mixer it will produce the difference only. You have to get the D and clock signals right I forget which one has to be the highest frequency to make that work. Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Why? A D flipflop works well as a mixer when either the

Re: [time-nuts] FTS 1050A What to do??

2011-08-09 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 10/08/11 00:14, Bruce Griffiths wrote: Paul A. Cianciolo wrote: Hello Folks, In my collection of stuff, I found an FTS 1050a in good condition. It has been sitting for 5 years, and I decided to fire it up last night. It works. Opened it up and took a look inside. The main reference is a larg

Re: [time-nuts] FTS 1050A

2011-08-09 Thread Max Robinson
...@yahoogroups.com - Original Message - From: "ed breya" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 4:05 PM Subject: [time-nuts] FTS 1050A If you just want to get it to an integer value, I recommend, for example, that you find or make a 6.000 MHz VCXO using a common 6 MHz crystal, and mix i

Re: [time-nuts] FTS 1050A What to do??

2011-08-09 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Paul A. Cianciolo wrote: Hello Folks, In my collection of stuff, I found an FTS 1050a in good condition. It has been sitting for 5 years, and I decided to fire it up last night. It works. Opened it up and took a look inside. The main reference is a large box which I assumed was filled with foam

[time-nuts] FTS 1050A

2011-08-09 Thread ed breya
If you just want to get it to an integer value, I recommend, for example, that you find or make a 6.000 MHz VCXO using a common 6 MHz crystal, and mix it with the 6.000300 MHz using a 74HC86 XOR, then the 300 Hz IF can easily be low-pass filtered out and used as the feedback to a PLL (like

Re: [time-nuts] FTS 1050A

2011-08-09 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
Greenman Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 2:19 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] FTS 1050A The FTS 1050A sounds like a very nice toy. I agree with one of the other suggestions - use the device as a reference for a DDS generator, so you can have any frequency you like, with high stability

[time-nuts] FTS 1050A

2011-08-09 Thread Murray Greenman
The FTS 1050A sounds like a very nice toy. I agree with one of the other suggestions - use the device as a reference for a DDS generator, so you can have any frequency you like, with high stability. Many of the newer DDS chips have excellent performance, and in addition include a clock multiplier

Re: [time-nuts] FTS 1050A What to do??

2011-08-09 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
ement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] FTS 1050A What to do?? Any chance you can trim the frequency to 6 Mhz with the thumb wheels ? (Probably not but I'd be inclined to try.) If you can get 6Mhz then dividing down to 1 Mhz should be easy. On a side note I've been very pleased with the FTS 1050 I

Re: [time-nuts] FTS 1050A What to do??

2011-08-09 Thread Mark Spencer
ago. It's stability seems to be getting better and better every month. --- On Tue, 8/9/11, Paul A. Cianciolo wrote: > From: Paul A. Cianciolo > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] FTS 1050A What to do?? > To: "'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'" >

Re: [time-nuts] FTS 1050A What to do??

2011-08-09 Thread paul swed
wer. > Converting Photons to Electrons for over 20 years > > > > > -Original Message- > From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On > Behalf Of paul swed > Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 12:27 PM > To: Discussion of precise time and freque

Re: [time-nuts] FTS 1050A What to do??

2011-08-09 Thread Bob Camp
ul A. Cianciolo Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 12:06 PM To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: [time-nuts] FTS 1050A What to do?? Hello Folks, In my collection of stuff, I found an FTS 1050a in good condition. It has been sitting for 5 years, and I decided to f

Re: [time-nuts] FTS 1050A What to do??

2011-08-09 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] FTS 1050A What to do?? so send a pix of the widget curious to see what it looks like. On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 12:26 PM, paul swed wrote: > Paul, > That is nice oscillator and as you noted semi-useless. > S

Re: [time-nuts] FTS 1050A What to do??

2011-08-09 Thread Chris Albertson
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Paul A. Cianciolo wrote: > The output is 6.0003  Mhz  that fed a comb generator creating harmonics that > were the local oscillator reference for each ascending cable TV channel. > So as nice as this thing is and I would like to use it. What do you do > with a

Re: [time-nuts] FTS 1050A What to do??

2011-08-09 Thread paul swed
so send a pix of the widget curious to see what it looks like. On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 12:26 PM, paul swed wrote: > Paul, > That is nice oscillator and as you noted semi-useless. > So with that in mind you could multiply by 6 and get to 36 Mhz. > Use that as a clock for a DDS to divide to somethi

Re: [time-nuts] FTS 1050A What to do??

2011-08-09 Thread paul swed
Paul, That is nice oscillator and as you noted semi-useless. So with that in mind you could multiply by 6 and get to 36 Mhz. Use that as a clock for a DDS to divide to something usable at 5 MC granted some jitter but might be quite good. Ok now that's really not exciting but then again. You were j

[time-nuts] FTS 1050A What to do??

2011-08-09 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
Hello Folks, In my collection of stuff, I found an FTS 1050a in good condition. It has been sitting for 5 years, and I decided to fire it up last night. It works. Opened it up and took a look inside. The main reference is a large box which I assumed was filled with foam insulation. Everything is

Re: [time-nuts] FTS-1050A battery pack?

2007-02-15 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
tem design > then please use series two 8V and one 12V batteries for FTS-1050A and > FTS-1050A/015. > > Best regards, > > Tsuchiya, JA2GXU > > - Original Message - From: "John Ackermann N8UR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Discussion of precise t

Re: [time-nuts] FTS-1050A battery pack?

2007-02-14 Thread Masamichi Tsuchiya
nd frequency measurement" Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 7:50 AM Subject: [time-nuts] FTS-1050A battery pack? >I have a nice FTS-1050A that came without its battery pack. I'd like to > put one together for it. > > Can anyone tell me the battery layout -- number and type o

Re: [time-nuts] FTS-1050A

2007-02-11 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Thanks! I'd forgotten that the manual had that blurb near the end. At least that tells me how many, and what kind of cells to use. Then it's just a matter of making them fit. :-) Thanks, John Colin Bradley said the following on 02/11/2007 04:07 PM: > John: > Here is a link to Symmetricon

[time-nuts] FTS-1050A

2007-02-11 Thread Colin Bradley
John: Here is a link to Symmetricon that describes the internal battery, option 002, for your unit. You may already have this manual. Colin http://www.symmetricom.com/support/download_manual.aspx?DocID=723 Do

Re: [time-nuts] FTS-1050A battery pack?

2007-02-11 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Jason Rabel said the following on 02/10/2007 10:07 PM: > Probably not the answer you are looking for, but I figured I would give my > two cents. > > Another solution would be just to plug it into a modern UPS. Less headaches > and worries. > > Jason That's what I normally do, but one nice use fo

Re: [time-nuts] FTS-1050A battery pack?

2007-02-10 Thread Jason Rabel
Probably not the answer you are looking for, but I figured I would give my two cents. Another solution would be just to plug it into a modern UPS. Less headaches and worries. Jason ___ time-nuts mailing list time-nuts@febo.com https://www.febo.com/cgi

Re: [time-nuts] FTS-1050A battery pack?

2007-02-10 Thread Bill Janssen
Brian Kirby wrote: > If the unit powers up, you may probe it and see what kind of charging > voltage you can measure. > > John Ackermann N8UR wrote: > >> I have a nice FTS-1050A that came without its battery pack. I'd like to >> put one together for it. >> >> Can anyone tell me the battery lay

Re: [time-nuts] FTS-1050A battery pack?

2007-02-10 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi John: The FTS4060 uses a power supply brick to convert the AC line to 30 VDC. That is in turn converted to a bunch of voltages by a switching mode power supply in the physics package sub assembly. Note that 30 VDC is a convenient value to make a charger for a "24 volt" lead acid gel cell

Re: [time-nuts] FTS-1050A battery pack?

2007-02-10 Thread Brian Kirby
If the unit powers up, you may probe it and see what kind of charging voltage you can measure. John Ackermann N8UR wrote: > I have a nice FTS-1050A that came without its battery pack. I'd like to > put one together for it. > > Can anyone tell me the battery layout -- number and type of cell, an

[time-nuts] FTS-1050A battery pack?

2007-02-10 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
I have a nice FTS-1050A that came without its battery pack. I'd like to put one together for it. Can anyone tell me the battery layout -- number and type of cell, and physical arrangement -- so I can try to reconstruct it? Thanks! John ___ time-nuts