Re: [time-nuts] Failure mode in GPS receivers

2007-01-14 Thread David Smith
Hi Bruce, Bruce Lane wrote: > < snip >< >> P.S. Have you got any software for yours? I've got a User Manual >> PDF for mine if that helps. > > For the Trak? I've got an archive file with the last release of > firmware, if that's what you mean. Trak was nice enough to send such > my way after s

Re: [time-nuts] Failure mode in GPS receivers

2007-01-13 Thread Bruce Lane
Hi, David, *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 18-Dec-06 at 10:25 David Smith wrote: >Bruce, > >I've owned a Trak Systems 8821 for over a year, and had a problem with >the antenna side. Yours may be different. Mission One at this point is simply to get a viable outdo

Re: [time-nuts] Failure mode in GPS receivers

2006-12-17 Thread David Smith
Bruce, I've owned a Trak Systems 8821 for over a year, and had a problem with the antenna side. Yours may be different. My unit is designed to work with a powered antenna, and it feeds 12V up the coax to power it. Apparently this is the "standard" voltage for TNC antenna connections - the sm

Re: [time-nuts] Failure mode in GPS receivers

2006-12-17 Thread Jason Rabel
Before doing all sorts of crazy tests, cable checks, and hours on end googling for info... Why not just hook up another antenna directly to the unit that you know is good? I have a couple spares sitting in a drawer that I use for testing only. They are just those cheap ones you find everyone selli

Re: [time-nuts] Failure mode in GPS receivers

2006-12-17 Thread Magnus Danielson
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Failure mode in GPS receivers Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 22:45:52 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Magnus, Björn, > Was there not a local "jamming" case in your hometown, where a waterfilled > GPS antenna m

Re: [time-nuts] Failure mode in GPS receivers

2006-12-17 Thread Magnus Danielson
From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Failure mode in GPS receivers Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 21:39:47 + Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Magnus Danielson write > s: > > >I think th

Re: [time-nuts] Failure mode in GPS receivers

2006-12-17 Thread Jack Hudler
: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Failure mode in GPS receivers oh yes . 1) Waterlevel in GPS antenna's "hermetic" too high ... the ice inside the "hermetic" was melting down ( Hi Magnus ;-) ) 2) Coaxial cable damaged, due to nice little pecking bi

Re: [time-nuts] Failure mode in GPS receivers

2006-12-17 Thread bg
On Sun, December 17, 2006 22:27, Magnus Danielson said: > From: geo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Failure mode in GPS receivers > Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 21:10:02 + > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> oh yes . >> >>

Re: [time-nuts] Failure mode in GPS receivers

2006-12-17 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Magnus Danielson write s: >I think the culprit was that the manufactures tag was sitting over the venting >plug. At least I think it was a venting plug. I have that tag sitting on my >monitor at work these days. Ah well. ...and whenever you leave your computer for

Re: [time-nuts] Failure mode in GPS receivers

2006-12-17 Thread bg
On Sun, December 17, 2006 22:27, Magnus Danielson said: >> 2) Coaxial cable damaged, due to nice little pecking birds :-( > > Oh, those lovely birds! :-) > > The non-optimal placement we have for our antenna just happends to make it > fairly uninteresting for birds. There are better sit-and-enjoy-t

Re: [time-nuts] Failure mode in GPS receivers

2006-12-17 Thread Magnus Danielson
From: David Forbes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Failure mode in GPS receivers Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 14:09:19 -0700 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dave, > The point is that some receivers require more RF signal from the > antenna than others to achieve

Re: [time-nuts] Failure mode in GPS receivers

2006-12-17 Thread bg
On Sun, December 17, 2006 22:09, David Forbes said: > At 12:04 PM -0800 12/17/06, Bruce Lane wrote: >>On 17-Dec-06 at 19:54 Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >> >>>In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Bruce Lane" >>>writes: Fellow clock-tickers, In the group's experience, what's the most co

Re: [time-nuts] Failure mode in GPS receivers

2006-12-17 Thread Magnus Danielson
From: geo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Failure mode in GPS receivers Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 21:10:02 + Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > oh yes . > > 1) Waterlevel in GPS antenna's "hermetic" too high ... the ice inside the >

Re: [time-nuts] Failure mode in GPS receivers

2006-12-17 Thread David Forbes
At 12:04 PM -0800 12/17/06, Bruce Lane wrote: >On 17-Dec-06 at 19:54 Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > >>In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Bruce Lane" >>writes: >>>Fellow clock-tickers, >>> >>>In the group's experience, what's the most common failure >>> mode for GPS receivers, especially older on

Re: [time-nuts] Failure mode in GPS receivers

2006-12-17 Thread geo
oh yes . 1) Waterlevel in GPS antenna's "hermetic" too high ... the ice inside the "hermetic" was melting down ( Hi Magnus ;-) ) 2) Coaxial cable damaged, due to nice little pecking birds :-( Regards, Martin ___ time-nuts mailing list time-n

Re: [time-nuts] Failure mode in GPS receivers

2006-12-17 Thread bg
On Sun, December 17, 2006 21:34, Bruce Lane said: > Good day, > > *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** > > On 17-Dec-06 at 21:25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>On Sun, December 17, 2006 20:54, Poul-Henning Kamp said: >>> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Bruce Lane" >>> writes: Fellow clock-ti

Re: [time-nuts] Failure mode in GPS receivers

2006-12-17 Thread Bruce Lane
Good day, *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 17-Dec-06 at 21:25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >On Sun, December 17, 2006 20:54, Poul-Henning Kamp said: >> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Bruce Lane" >> writes: >>>Fellow clock-tickers, >>> >>> In the group's experience, what's the most

Re: [time-nuts] Failure mode in GPS receivers

2006-12-17 Thread bg
On Sun, December 17, 2006 20:54, Poul-Henning Kamp said: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Bruce Lane" > writes: >>Fellow clock-tickers, >> >> In the group's experience, what's the most common failure >> mode for GPS receivers, especially older ones, that could stop them >> from hearing the

Re: [time-nuts] Failure mode in GPS receivers

2006-12-17 Thread Magnus Danielson
From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Failure mode in GPS receivers Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 19:54:28 + Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Bruce Lane" writes: > >Fellow clock-t

Re: [time-nuts] Failure mode in GPS receivers

2006-12-17 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Bruce Lane" writes: >>> In the group's experience, what's the most common failure >>> mode for GPS receivers, especially older ones, that could stop them >>> from hearing the sats? >> >>Antenna damage. > > Are you sure? Especially considering that the o

Re: [time-nuts] Failure mode in GPS receivers

2006-12-17 Thread Bruce Lane
Hi, Poul, *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 17-Dec-06 at 19:54 Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Bruce Lane" >writes: >>Fellow clock-tickers, >> >> In the group's experience, what's the most common failure >> mode for GPS receivers, especially older ones,

Re: [time-nuts] Failure mode in GPS receivers

2006-12-17 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Bruce Lane" writes: >Fellow clock-tickers, > > In the group's experience, what's the most common failure > mode for GPS receivers, especially older ones, that could stop them > from hearing the sats? Antenna damage. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Z

[time-nuts] Failure mode in GPS receivers

2006-12-17 Thread Bruce Lane
Fellow clock-tickers, In the group's experience, what's the most common failure mode for GPS receivers, especially older ones, that could stop them from hearing the sats? I ask because my Trak Systems 8820 clock, which has worked perfectly well for nearly a year since I installe