Re: [time-nuts] Frequency deviations in Europe affect clocks

2018-03-09 Thread Adrian Godwin
d power equals supply. > > Hope that helps, > Bill Hawkins > > > -Original Message- > From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of David > G. McGaw > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 11:01 PM > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Frequency deviations in Europ

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency deviations in Europe affect clocks

2018-03-08 Thread Bill Hawkins
ply. Hope that helps, Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of David G. McGaw Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 11:01 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Frequency deviations in Europe affect clocks Can someone please explain why not paying

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency deviations in Europe affect clocks

2018-03-08 Thread Hal Murray
If you don't pay your bills, the guy who was sending you power stops sending it so your zone starts running without enough power. -- These are my opinions. I hate spam. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency deviations in Europe affect clocks

2018-03-08 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
rd of the grid frequency. My timebase is a TCXO, 0.4ppm off. I >> get a frequency value for any single sinewave, precision is 1.4*10^-4 Hz. >> >> Cheers >> Detlef Schücker >> DD4WV >> >> (See attached file: lostseconds.pdf) >> >> "time-nuts"

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency deviations in Europe affect clocks

2018-03-08 Thread Andy Backus
bject: Re: [time-nuts] Frequency deviations in Europe affect clocks Can someone please explain why not paying your bills causes the grid and therefore the clocks to slow down? None of the reports, either for the technical or lay person, give a reason. David N1HAC On 3/8/18 5:00 PM, Pieter-Tje

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency deviations in Europe affect clocks

2018-03-08 Thread David G. McGaw
.pdf) "time-nuts" schrieb am 08.03.2018 02:16:55: Von: Gerhard Hoffmann An: time-nuts@febo.com Datum: 08.03.2018 02:41 Betreff: Re: [time-nuts] Frequency deviations in Europe affect clocks Gesendet von: "time-nuts" Am 07.03.2018 um 22:09 schrieb Poul-Henning Kamp: This ex

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency deviations in Europe affect clocks

2018-03-08 Thread Pieter-Tjerk de Boer
ingle sinewave, precision is 1.4*10^-4 Hz. > > Cheers > Detlef Schücker > DD4WV > > (See attached file: lostseconds.pdf) > > "time-nuts" schrieb am 08.03.2018 02:16:55: > > > Von: Gerhard Hoffmann > > An: time-nuts@febo.com > > Datum: 08.

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency deviations in Europe affect clocks

2018-03-08 Thread Tim Shoppa
econds.pdf) > > "time-nuts" schrieb am 08.03.2018 02:16:55: > > > Von: Gerhard Hoffmann > > An: time-nuts@febo.com > > Datum: 08.03.2018 02:41 > > Betreff: Re: [time-nuts] Frequency deviations in Europe affect clocks > > Gesendet von: "time-nuts&q

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency deviations in Europe affect clocks

2018-03-08 Thread Bill Woodcock
> On Mar 8, 2018, at 6:39 AM, Jean-Louis Rault wrote: > > A picture of my own microwaves oven, this 8th of march, near Paris, France . https://preview.entsoe.eu/news/2018/03/06/press-release-continuing-frequency-deviation-in-the-continental-european-power-system-originating-in-serbia-kosovo-p

[time-nuts] Frequency deviations in Europe affect clocks

2018-03-08 Thread Jean-Louis Rault
A picture of my own microwaves oven, this 8th of march, near Paris, France . The time reference is a DCF77 radio controlled clock. Jean-Louis Rault ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mai

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency deviations in Europe affect clocks

2018-03-08 Thread Jean-Louis Rault
A picture of my own microwaves oven, this 8th of march, near Paris, France . The time reference is a DCF77 radio controlled clock. Jean-Louis Rault Le 07/03/2018 à 21:09, Poul-Henning Kamp a écrit : In message <1520456485.3091982.1295242984.442b4...@webmail.messagingengine.com>, Pe

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency deviations in Europe affect clocks

2018-03-07 Thread Gerhard Hoffmann
Am 07.03.2018 um 22:09 schrieb Poul-Henning Kamp: This explains why my oven clock and the time/temperature display on the building outside my apartment in Switzerland are six minutes slow since January. It was a great mystery to me. Can you get a picture of this ? It would be wonderful to h

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency deviations in Europe affect clocks

2018-03-07 Thread Attila Kinali
On Wed, 07 Mar 2018 22:01:25 +0100 Pete Stephenson wrote: > Fortunately the Swiss rail system doesn't, as far as I know, use powerline > frequency for timekeeping, even at remote stations, so all the railway > clocks are still running properly. They used to have a central HBG receiver at all

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency deviations in Europe affect clocks

2018-03-07 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <1520456485.3091982.1295242984.442b4...@webmail.messagingengine.com>, Pete Stephenson writes: >On Wed, Mar 7, 2018, at 9:28 PM, Mark Sims wrote: >> A more detailed explanation of what is happening: >> >> https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/03/ovens-across-europe-display

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency deviations in Europe affect clocks

2018-03-07 Thread Pete Stephenson
On Wed, Mar 7, 2018, at 9:28 PM, Mark Sims wrote: > A more detailed explanation of what is happening: > > https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/03/ovens-across-europe-display-the-wrong-time-due-to-a-serbia-kosovo-grid-dispute/ This explains why my oven clock and the time/temperature display on

[time-nuts] Frequency deviations in Europe affect clocks

2018-03-07 Thread Mark Sims
A more detailed explanation of what is happening: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/03/ovens-across-europe-display-the-wrong-time-due-to-a-serbia-kosovo-grid-dispute/ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://w

[time-nuts] Frequency deviations in Europe affect clocks

2018-03-07 Thread Leo Bodnar
This has been making rounds for quite awhile, I am surprised it has not been picked up here. Leo == Frequency deviations in Continental Europe including impact on electric clocks steered by frequency Continental European Power System has been experiencing, since mid-January, cont