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Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Giove A has become "official" now.
You illustrate some good points...
What about places where GPS doesn't work so great for some people? Then they
might be willing to pay a subscription for a service that does benefit them
better. Also, like you
You illustrate some good points...
What about places where GPS doesn't work so great for some people? Then they
might be willing to pay a subscription for a service that does benefit them
better. Also, like you mentioned, if they come out with a 'lifetime'
subscription, then maybe some people will
Got Qwoob?
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On 15-Jan-07 at 17:17 Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
>In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Jason Rabel"
>writes:
>
>>XM & Sirrius radio relied on a subscriber model, that nobody thought would
>>work since local FM stations were free to listen to. I know
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Jason Rabel" writes:
>XM & Sirrius radio relied on a subscriber model, that nobody thought would
>work since local FM stations were free to listen to. I know this isn't an
>apples-to-apples comparison, but people thought that those satellite
>subscription services
XM & Sirrius radio relied on a subscriber model, that nobody thought would
work since local FM stations were free to listen to. I know this isn't an
apples-to-apples comparison, but people thought that those satellite
subscription services would bomb too.
Also, if Galileo was under NATO or some "j
From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Giove A has become "official" now.
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:53:28 +
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Poul-Henning,
> The most recent, semi-reliably information with actual details
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Magnus Danielson wri
tes:
The most recent, semi-reliably information with actual details I
have been able to find is here:
http://www.helios-tech.co.uk/ERNP/documents.htm
In particular the presentations are interesting.
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Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Giove A has become "official" now.
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 16:19:55 +0100 (CET)
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Björn,
> On Mon, January 15, 2007 15:59, Magnus Danielson said:
>
> >> >I have heard that the propos
On Mon, January 15, 2007 15:59, Magnus Danielson said:
>> >I have heard that the proposed fee was 1 EUR, but I don't know the
>> current
>> >idea about it.
>>
>> The 1EUR per receiver fee is not decided and if it was, it would be
>> pointless, because there is no way to enforce and it would never
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Magnus Danielson wr
ites:
>> The 1EUR per receiver fee is not decided and if it was, it would be
>> pointless, because there is no way to enforce and it would never
>> amount to enough money to matter anyway.
>
>I agree it would be rather pointless, but at least for
From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Giove A has become "official" now.
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 14:46:21 +
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Poul-Henning,
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Magnus Danielson wri
> tes:
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Magnus Danielson wri
tes:
>I have heard that the proposed fee was 1 EUR, but I don't know the current
>idea about it.
The 1EUR per receiver fee is not decided and if it was, it would be
pointless, because there is no way to enforce and it would never
amount to enou
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, bg@
lysator.liu.se writes:
>On Mon, January 15, 2007 11:41, Poul-Henning Kamp said:
>Many surveyors use GPS and GLONASS L1+L2 now. Are there there even ONE
>major manufacturer of dual freq receivers that have not announced support
>for the upcoming Galileo signals.
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, bg@
lysator.liu.se writes:
>Why do you think Galileo will not be free for the user of the open service?
It will, if the satellites ever got up there.
But the subscription service is what is expected to actually pay
for Galileo, and that business model strongly hin
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Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Giove A has become "official" now.
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 14:59:16 +0100 (CET)
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Today GNSS is woven very deep into national infrastructure - CDMA radio
> systems, power generation, network time
On Mon, January 15, 2007 11:41, Poul-Henning Kamp said:
> Surveyors can't be forced to buy this service, they're perfectly happy
> with GPS L1 + L2 and galileos enhanced services don't give them anything
> they will pay for.
Many surveyors use GPS and GLONASS L1+L2 now. Are there there even ONE
m
Henning Kamp
> Sent: 14 January 2007 22:38
> To: time-nuts@febo.com
> Subject: [time-nuts] Giove A has become "official" now.
>
>
> ... but that probably only amounts to a PR effort, since the funding og
> Galileo is still not found.
>
> http://www.esa.int
In message , "Rob Kimberley" writes:
>I'm still not convinced about the long term viability of Galileo especially
>against the "free" GPS.
I'm convinced that there is no short or long term viability for the proposed
economical model.
The only users who can be forced to subscribe to the "enhanced
Subject: [time-nuts] Giove A has become "official" now.
... but that probably only amounts to a PR effort, since the funding og
Galileo is still not found.
http://www.esa.int/esaCP/SEMUGJRMTWE_index_0.html
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... but that probably only amounts to a PR effort, since the funding
og Galileo is still not found.
http://www.esa.int/esaCP/SEMUGJRMTWE_index_0.html
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