Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-09-15 Thread John Miles
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Thanks for the plug. :) I should point out that 7470.EXE was never meant to draw diagrams like this, so the colors and overall line quality are not all they could be. Jeffrey Pawlan, WA6KBL emailed me with a nice grayscale

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-09-12 Thread Brooke Clarke
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Hi: Thanks to John Miles and his HP 7470 plotter program I have .gif versions of the five E1938 drawings that were in .hpg vector format that can be viewed. These are packed into a single file E1938gifs.zip downloadable

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-29 Thread SAIDJACK
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY In a message dated 8/28/2007 22:23:57 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The fault was using a whacky fringe program on a fringe operating system and not the vector file. Do the same thing with a

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-29 Thread Rob Kimberley
-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY In a message dated 8/28/2007 13:41:24 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here's a link to the resulting png from hpgs _ftp://ftp.sonic.net/pub/users/rexa

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-29 Thread Magnus Danielson
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 21:42:58 EDT Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 8/28/2007 18:29:41 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes

[time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Brooke Clarke
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Hi: I'm working on a web page for the E1938 and have received a bunch of files from Rick. One of them is a .HPG of a schematic. I've tried to use IrfanView, but it's a program I normally don't use and all the images are

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Didier Juges
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Brooke, Why don't you install PDF Creator? It's a free printer driver that creates pdf files, so any program that can print can create PDF's. You can set the page size to what you want, so I use 11x17 for schematics.

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Didier Juges
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Brooke, Re: my last post, I am not sure I read your mail correctly. PDF Creator is useful when you have a program that can open the document, I do not know what program is normally used to open .HPG files... Didier KO4BB

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Arnold Tibus
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 10:18:55 -0700, Brooke Clarke wrote: Hi: I'm working on a web page for the E1938 and have received a bunch of files from Rick. One of them is a .HPG of a schematic. I've tried to use IrfanView, but

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Brooke Clarke
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Hi Scott: I have uploaded the smallest one E1938_asdrawb.hpg at: http://www.prc68.com/I/pdf/E1938_asdrawb.hpg it's also linked on the E1938 web page under Theory of Operation. I have Autocad 14, but it did not want to load a

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Brooke Clarke
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Hi Scott: Yes. Can it be read? How did you do it? Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.PRC68.com http://www.precisionclock.com Scott Newell wrote: ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Scott Newell
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY At 02:35 PM 8/28/2007 , Rex wrote: What are you using to convert the file? Corel Draw. I didn't receive any errors, but I don't know that the conversion is accurate. HPGL is pretty simple--I'll bet it wouldn't be much work

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread John Miles
, August 28, 2007 11:13 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 10:18:55 -0700, Brooke Clarke wrote: Hi: I'm working on a web page for the E1938 and have received a bunch of files from Rick. One of them

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Christopher Hoover
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Brooke Clarke wrote: I'm working on a web page for the E1938 and have received a bunch of files from Rick. One of them is a .HPG of a schematic. I've tried to use IrfanView, but it's a program I normally don't use and

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Rex
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 12:35:19 -0700, Rex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used this free program: http://hpgs.berlios.de/ and got it to create a png file, but I had to edit the hpgl and remove a few commands that the program (and my

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Brooke Clarke
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Hi: Scott will convert the files and I'll post them when they arrive. I've also added a Windows control program to the page. You may need to force a reload to see the new items. Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.PRC68.com

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Rex
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:01:12 -0700, Brooke Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi: Scott will convert the files and I'll post them when they arrive. I've also added a Windows control program to the page. You may need to force a

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread WB6BNQ
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Hi brooke, The Windows control program link did not work. Can you explain, a little bit, about the program on your web page, besides here. thanks 73BillWB6BNQ Brooke Clarke wrote: Hi: Scott will convert the

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread John Miles
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Hi brooke, The Windows control program link did not work. Can you explain, a little bit, about the program on your web page

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread SAIDJACK
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY In a message dated 8/28/2007 13:41:24 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here's a link to the resulting png from hpgs _ftp://ftp.sonic.net/pub/users/rexa/E1938A/E1938_asdrawb.png_

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Rex
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:36:44 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JPG, PDF, HTML is the name of the game these days :) I don't completely agree. JPG is not good for line drawings like schematics. A lossless compression like GIF

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Bill Jones, K8CU
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Anybody here that can generate PDF's with 300 or more DPI? Hello Said, Yes, no problem. Please direct me to the URL for the schematic in hpgl format. I can't seem to locate it. However, I did find the E1938 assembly

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Magnus Danielson
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:36:44 EDT Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY In a message dated

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread SAIDJACK
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY In a message dated 8/28/2007 15:06:22 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: PDF is ok, but hard to modify without spending money (like to split a schematic between multiple 8.5 x 11 pages for printing.)

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread SAIDJACK
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY In a message dated 8/28/2007 15:24:24 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Said, you have your timing screwed up here. PNG is definitly much newer than JPG. PNG is certainly standard and viewers are plentiful

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Brooke Clarke
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Hi Rex: Too soon to say. Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.PRC68.com http://www.precisionclock.com Rex wrote: ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:01:12 -0700,

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread SAIDJACK
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY In a message dated 8/28/2007 15:07:14 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: will be happy to post a high resolution schematic when I locate the hpgl source. The schematic may be more comfortable to view by

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Hal Murray
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY JPG can be set to be losless, it's supported by the standard, but I agree GIF or TIFF is better. gif and png are (normally) lossless compression. They are intended for graphs and such that only use a few colors. jpg

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Didier Juges
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Miles Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 2:58 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page My plotter emulator (7470.EXE) will actually render the file

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Didier Juges
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jean-Louis Oneto Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 4:03 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page Hello all, I succeeded to read it with Corel PaintShopPro XI and then converted it to PDF with PDF Creator

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Didier Juges
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Magnus Danielson Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 5:22 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Jean-Louis Oneto
: Didier Juges [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 12:34 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Jean-Louis, you can upload

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Magnus Danielson
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY From: Hal Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:48:14 -0700 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread SAIDJACK
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY In a message dated 8/28/2007 18:24:14 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Didier, I just put the file on your server under the name E1938_asdrawb.pdf. I can easily save it to other formats as well if

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Magnus Danielson
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY From: Didier Juges [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:39:25 -0500 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ko4bb.com, all htmlized by hand... Yes, but you have decorations like

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread SAIDJACK
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY In a message dated 8/28/2007 18:29:41 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: have you opened a PNG lately in internet explorer? What a headache. Looks totally crappy, cannot zoom, cannot rotate etc. Not a

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Didier Juges
-Louis Oneto Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 8:23 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page Hi Didier, I just put the file on your server under the name E1938_asdrawb.pdf. I can easily save it to other formats as well if anybody

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Didier Juges
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 8:40 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page In a message dated 8/28/2007 18:24:14 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Christopher Hoover
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY I'll say this once again. The only two appropriate conversion options for the HPGL files are: 1. SVG -- the W3C XML standard for vector graphics (cf. http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/ ) 2. PDF -- via a path produces vector

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Neon John
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 21:02:59 -, Jean-Louis Oneto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Hello all, I succeeded to read it with Corel PaintShopPro XI and then

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread SAIDJACK
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY In a message dated 8/28/2007 19:53:06 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anything else is a BAD idea. This certainly includes any path that results in JPEG of any sort, GIF, TIFF, or any other raster images

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Neon John
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 18:28:01 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/28/2007 15:06:22 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: PDF is ok, but hard to modify without spending money (like to split a

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Neon John
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 23:45:11 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: respectfully disagree: that would mean we should get out our good-old pen-plotters and vector-graphics displays as well? My E-size HP pen plotter is still working

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 Web Page

2007-08-28 Thread Neon John
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 00:44:56 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi John, ok, I guess my comment about 600dpi PDF files being sufficient for the job is not resonating here. Case in point: At a previous employer, our boss