Hi Rick:

I remember that when the Motorola 6800 first came out (my first computer was a SWTP 6800 based kit) there were a family of 68xxx chips to go with it and one of them was the 68488. But very shortly after that it was common knowledge that there was a problem with it and almost no one was using it.

The TI TMS9914A and NEC uPD7210 chips were much more popular. ines makes a replacement that can be configured as either a 9914 or 7210, see:
http://www.gpib2000.com/chips.htm


I think NI also makes a replacement chip for the NEC. But no one makes a replacement for the Motorola part.

Someone is making new PCBs for the GP-IB interface that goes into the Austron 2100 series Loran-C receivers, but getting the Motorola 68488 and the bus interface chips is very expensive since they are very rare.

73,

Brooke


Rick Karlquist wrote:

I remember back when the 5370B was being designed that
there were three vendors who made GP-IB interface chips.
All three were implemented incorrectly resulting in bugs,
but the bugs were different.  All three vendors refused
to fix the bugs.  There was also an HP made "PHI" chip
that interfaced with GP-IB.  It might have actually worked
correctly.  I remember that the HP5183 had a bug where it
would go into serial poll by mistake after about 12 hours
of continuous bus activity.  There was no way to fix this
bug, AFAIK.

Rick Karlquist



[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:


Hi David,

  Apparently the GPIB fix occurred in the
5370B models only and as far as he knows, there
could be some units out there with "bad" firmware
in them and some with the GPIB fix.  The problem
still remains where they didn't change the firmware
revision number so there's no way to confirm it
one way or the other, besides having your GPIB hang
up on you.  Sorry, but that's about the best that
can be done on this issue.  I hope your 5370B is
a later model that has the fix in it!

Regards,
Jim




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Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 1:52 PM
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Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Difference between HP 5370A and 5370B


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Hi again David,

I talked to xxxxx this morning and here's what
he said:


Thanks.



The 5370B has a different processor board than the
"A" model, with on-board RAM (the "A" had a separate
RAM board). The "B" has had an upgrade to its DAC
board. The "B" has a different input module that is
more stable than in the "A". The firmware has had an
upgrade in the "B", as the HPIB (GPIB) would occasionally
hang up in the "A" model. The bad news is that the
newer firmware carries the same rev. number as the old one
so you can't easily tell which one you have installed.


I'm slightly lost there. You seem to be implying the B's have newer
firmware than the A's, but then saying its not easy to tell if
you have
the new firmware, since the revision is the same. If the newer
firmware
was installed only in B's, then all you would need to do is
look at the
model number. Clearly then I assume either some B's have the old
firmware, or some A's have the new firmware, or perhaps HP
would update
an A to a B firmware.



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