Re: [time-nuts] Improving performance of a GPS antenna...?

2012-04-09 Thread Peter Schmelcher
I saw a rather expensive GPS antenna made by one of the big-name GPS survey equipment mfgrs that was mounted on top of a 12 or 15 inch diameter disc about 3/4 inch thick. Turns out that the disc is made of some sort of RF absorbent foam covered by a weather-proofing coating of some sort. If

Re: [time-nuts] Improving performance of a GPS antenna...?

2012-04-05 Thread Robert Atkinson
: Re: [time-nuts] Improving performance of a GPS antenna...? Hi Mike: I used military surplus radar absorbing material to stop reflections on a satellite antenna by applying it to the rain gutter, see: http://www.prc68.com/I/Images/SB_angw.jpg A sheet of this stuff about 4 x 6 feet weighed maybe

Re: [time-nuts] Improving performance of a GPS antenna...?

2012-04-05 Thread bg
Jim, There's a new choke ring style antenna (patented, of course, and they deserve it) which uses spikes instead of solid rings. And, they wrap the choke over a hemispherical surface as opposed to on a plane. Much tougher to design and fabricate (no buying sets of cake pans any more), but

Re: [time-nuts] Improving performance of a GPS antenna...?

2012-04-05 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
What sort of interference?? What is causing it? Any possibility of correcting it? I am interested in more information. Will look for whats later in the thread. I have a situation where there is interference coming from a specific direction (close to the horizon). Is it feasible to

Re: [time-nuts] Improving performance of a GPS antenna...?

2012-04-05 Thread Azelio Boriani
How do you know it is coming from a specific direction? There is a terrestrial L-band transmitter? A radio link? Try to put a screen n*lambda+lambda/2 from the GPS antenna to create a null for the offending L-band frequency... On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R

Re: [time-nuts] Improving performance of a GPS antenna...?

2012-04-05 Thread michael cook
avril 2012 14h49 À : time-nuts@febo.com Cc : Objet : Re: [time-nuts] Improving performance of a GPS antenna...? What sort of interference?? What is causing it? Any possibility of correcting it?I am interested in more information. Will look for whats later in the thread. I have a situation where

Re: [time-nuts] Improving performance of a GPS antenna...?

2012-04-05 Thread EB4APL
Hi, Are you sure that the Oncore VP sends the right voltage to the antenna? This type needs 5 V and most pucks are designed for 3.3 V . According to the manual the VP sends 5 V to the antenna but anyway it is easy to measure. Regards, Ignacio, EB4APL On 05/04/2012 3:43, Morris Odell

Re: [time-nuts] Improving performance of a GPS antenna...?

2012-04-05 Thread Chris Albertson
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:28 PM, EB4APL eb4...@cembreros.jazztel.es wrote: Hi, Are you sure that the Oncore VP sends the right voltage to the antenna?  This type needs 5 V and most pucks are designed for 3.3 V .  According to the manual the VP sends 5 V to the antenna but anyway it is easy to

Re: [time-nuts] Improving performance of a GPS antenna...?

2012-04-05 Thread Morris Odell
Thanks for the replies. Yes it's definitely 5V from the receiver. That advice re the pipe mount sounds good - that will be the next step! Morris -- Are you sure that the Oncore VP sends the right voltage to the antenna? This type

Re: [time-nuts] Improving performance of a GPS antenna...?

2012-04-04 Thread Joseph Gray
You could cut up a military surplus RF blanket :-) For those who don't know, you cover the radome of an aircraft with this when the radar is transmitting, so you don't cook anyone nearby. I never knew how effective it was, but I didn't walk in front of the aircraft, just to be safe. Joe Gray W5JG

Re: [time-nuts] Improving performance of a GPS antenna...?

2012-04-04 Thread Robert Berg
You can get inexpensive conductive foam from Amazon. On 4/4/2012 5:53 AM, Michael Baker wrote: Hello, Time-Nutters-- I saw a rather expensive GPS antenna made by one of the big-name GPS survey equipment mfgrs that was mounted on top of a 12 or 15 inch diameter disc about 3/4 inch thick. Turns

Re: [time-nuts] Improving performance of a GPS antenna...?

2012-04-04 Thread Azelio Boriani
So it can be done: try to emulate the Zephyr GPS antenna with the RF absorber. On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Robert Berg bo...@pobox.com wrote: You can get inexpensive conductive foam from Amazon. On 4/4/2012 5:53 AM, Michael Baker wrote: Hello, Time-Nutters-- I saw a rather expensive

Re: [time-nuts] Improving performance of a GPS antenna...?

2012-04-04 Thread Jim Lux
On 4/4/12 6:56 AM, Robert Berg wrote: You can get inexpensive conductive foam from Amazon. Not all conductive foam works as a decent RF absorber. If the conductivity isn't well matched to 377 ohms, then the RF reflects right off of it. The black foam that ICs used to come in is a good

Re: [time-nuts] Improving performance of a GPS antenna...?

2012-04-04 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
If foliage does such a number on GPS signals, just fill a big garbage bag with yard debris and set the antenna in the middle of that. On 04/04/2012 05:53 AM, Michael Baker wrote: Hello, Time-Nutters-- I saw a rather expensive GPS antenna made by one of the big-name GPS survey equipment mfgrs

Re: [time-nuts] Improving performance of a GPS antenna...?

2012-04-04 Thread Jim Lux
On 4/4/12 7:35 AM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: If foliage does such a number on GPS signals, just fill a big garbage bag with yard debris and set the antenna in the middle of that. *wet* yard debris.. ___ time-nuts mailing list --

Re: [time-nuts] Improving performance of a GPS antenna...?

2012-04-04 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi Mike: I used military surplus radar absorbing material to stop reflections on a satellite antenna by applying it to the rain gutter, see: http://www.prc68.com/I/Images/SB_angw.jpg A sheet of this stuff about 4 x 6 feet weighed maybe 40 pounds. An easy way to confirm it works is to use it

Re: [time-nuts] Improving performance of a GPS antenna...?

2012-04-04 Thread Bill Hawkins
My first job was in a blasting cap plant in 1960. Raw materials and finished product were kept in earthen bunkers separated by a distance that would prevent an explosion in one from propagating (the distances were found by experience). Tall, grounded masts were spaced among the bunkers to prevent

Re: [time-nuts] Improving performance of a GPS antenna...?

2012-04-04 Thread Morris Odell
Hi all, While we're on this subject, I have a related question. I recently bought one of those cone shaped Lucent GPS timing antennas from a vendor in China. I'm using it for one of my GPS controlled clocks which contains a 6 channel Oncore VP receiver and is on the end of about 15 feet of

Re: [time-nuts] Improving performance of a GPS antenna...?

2012-04-04 Thread lists
I mounted the antenna on a small Al plate about 10 X 20 cm attached to a balcony rail 3 stories from the ground with a clear view of about 75% of the sky. I would have expected that the receiver would see quite a few satellites, a similar arrangement with a magnetic puck antenna regularly sees up