Re: [time-nuts] Jupiter GPS receiver

2006-01-05 Thread Brian Kirby
They provide redundancy and for carrier phase surveying, probally quicker solution times. For timing, it would just be better redundancy Brian Tom Van Baak wrote: >>Just curious on another topic : I have seen advertized GPS boards with >> >> >20-channel > > >>capability, Given that,

Re: [time-nuts] Jupiter GPS receiver

2006-01-05 Thread Bjorn Gabrielsson
"Tom Van Baak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Just curious on another topic : I have seen advertized GPS boards with > 20-channel > > capability, Given that, at least based on my direct experience, even with > a clear > > horizon you rarely have 12 satellites in view, what does buy you having > t

Re: [time-nuts] Jupiter GPS receiver

2006-01-05 Thread Bjorn Gabrielsson
Alberto di Bene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Just curious on another topic : I have seen advertized GPS boards with > 20-channel > capability, Given that, at least based on my direct experience, even with a > clear > horizon you rarely have 12 satellites in view, what does buy you having that >

Re: [time-nuts] Jupiter GPS receiver

2006-01-05 Thread Tom Van Baak
> Just curious on another topic : I have seen advertized GPS boards with 20-channel > capability, Given that, at least based on my direct experience, even with a clear > horizon you rarely have 12 satellites in view, what does buy you having that > capability available? TNX. Those are Glonass + G

Re: [time-nuts] Jupiter GPS receiver

2006-01-05 Thread Magnus Danielson
From: Alberto di Bene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Jupiter GPS receiver Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 19:02:25 +0100 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Magnus Danielson wrote: > > > >>I looked in my data and their spec sheet shows +/- 1 microsecond. But

Re: [time-nuts] Jupiter GPS receiver

2006-01-05 Thread Alberto di Bene
Magnus Danielson wrote: > >>I looked in my data and their spec sheet shows +/- 1 microsecond. But, >>I beleive this was much better than that. I cannot find it, but I >>beleive I seen a report where somebody compared the Jupiter and it was >>in the 120 to 150 nanosecond class. > > > +/- 1 m

Re: [time-nuts] Jupiter GPS receiver

2006-01-05 Thread Magnus Danielson
From: Brian Kirby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Jupiter GPS receiver Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 20:59:13 -0600 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I looked in my data and their spec sheet shows +/- 1 microsecond. But, > I beleive this was much better than that. I can

Re: [time-nuts] Jupiter GPS receiver

2006-01-04 Thread Brian Kirby
I looked in my data and their spec sheet shows +/- 1 microsecond. But, I beleive this was much better than that. I cannot find it, but I beleive I seen a report where somebody compared the Jupiter and it was in the 120 to 150 nanosecond class. Alberto di Bene wrote: >Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:

Re: [time-nuts] Jupiter GPS receiver

2006-01-04 Thread Johan Swenker
Bjorn Gabrielsson wrote: > Didier Juges <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>What software do you use to interface the binary output to your NTP >>server? If it happens to be Linux software and the source code were >>available, I would be interested. > > > ntpd/refclock_jupiter.c in the ntpd source

Re: [time-nuts] Jupiter GPS receiver

2006-01-04 Thread Alberto di Bene
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > You need to time the 1PPS signal to get the precise time, the > serial timecode alone, NMEA or not, doesn't do it. > Does anybody have reliable data on the jitter present on the 1pps signal of the Rockwell/Navman GPS boards ? I used in the past a 8-channel Motorola V

Re: [time-nuts] Jupiter GPS receiver

2006-01-04 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Johan Swenker writes: >I currently run my Jupiter in binary mode. According to ntpd the >offset is generally a few microseconds. I have no independant way to >check that claim. You need to time the 1PPS signal to get the precise time, the serial timecode alone, N

Re: [time-nuts] Jupiter GPS receiver

2006-01-04 Thread Bjorn Gabrielsson
Didier Juges <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > What software do you use to interface the binary output to your NTP > server? If it happens to be Linux software and the source code were > available, I would be interested. ntpd/refclock_jupiter.c in the ntpd source tree. For documentation read

Re: [time-nuts] Jupiter GPS receiver

2006-01-03 Thread Didier Juges
Hi Johan, I bought the Jupiter essentially to phase lock a 10 MHz reference, to be used to phase lock my test equipment (generators and counters). It has a 10 kHz output that is much more convenient than the 1 pps of most other receivers. But, since I have the thing working and hooked up, I wa

Re: [time-nuts] Jupiter GPS receiver

2006-01-03 Thread Johan Swenker
Hello, >>Hello Didier, >> >>The Jupiter GPS receiver (if used in NMEA and not binary mode) has a known >>fault, that it can be 1 or 2 seconds delta to UTC, this is independent of >>the "leap-second" situation. > I use my Jupiter GPS to synchronize my ntp-server. When I ran it in NMEA-mode, I ha

Re: [time-nuts] Jupiter GPS receiver

2006-01-02 Thread Geoff
Hello Mike, > Can someone point me to the source where the"known fault" of the Jupiter > listed below is documented?? Google has a "cached" copy of a discussion that I participated in, back in Feb 2004. Try this URL, I think it should work: http://tinyurl.com/c6bfn It contains the statement fr

Re: [time-nuts] Jupiter GPS receiver

2006-01-02 Thread Mike Seguin
jorn Gabrielsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Jupiter GPS receiver "Geoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "Didier Juges" wrote

Re: [time-nuts] Jupiter GPS receiver

2006-01-01 Thread Bjorn Gabrielsson
"Geoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "Didier Juges" wrote: > > I am planning to let the GPS receiver run a while longer to see if it > > corrects itself at some point, and if it does not, I'll reboot it. > > Hello Didier, > > The Jupiter GPS receiver (if used in NMEA and not binary mode) has a

Re: [time-nuts] Jupiter GPS receiver

2006-01-01 Thread Geoff
"Didier Juges" wrote: > I am planning to let the GPS receiver run a while longer to see if it > corrects itself at some point, and if it does not, I'll reboot it. Hello Didier, The Jupiter GPS receiver (if used in NMEA and not binary mode) has a known fault, that it can be 1 or 2 seconds delta t

[time-nuts] Jupiter GPS receiver

2006-01-01 Thread Didier Juges
I wanted to record the output from my Rockwell Jupiter GPS receiver during the leap second, but got caught up in the New Years's eve events and did not get it done (I am new at this :-) The receiver has been running continuously since yesterday and is still running (no reboot). At this moment,