Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C reception in the UK

2015-07-12 Thread Magnus Danielson
:2015-07-11 18:00 (GMT+01:00) Till: time-nuts@febo.com Kopia: mag...@rubidium.se Rubrik: Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C reception in the UK Hi, On 07/11/2015 03:18 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message , ken hartman writes: the European Radio Navigation Plan having twice been drafted but

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C reception in the UK

2015-07-11 Thread Björn
Did you check the jamming radius?  Originalmeddelande Från: Magnus Danielson Datum:2015-07-11 18:00 (GMT+01:00) Till: time-nuts@febo.com Kopia: mag...@rubidium.se Rubrik: Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C reception in the UK Hi, On 07/11/2015 03:18 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C reception in the UK

2015-07-11 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <55a13dab.2030...@rubidium.dyndns.org>, Magnus Danielson writes: >> The reason the ERNP wasn't published, was that it concluded that 40% of >> *all* benefits came from Loran-C, at a yearly cost only a fraction of >> a single Galileo launch vehicle. > >Someone should have dreame

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C reception in the UK

2015-07-11 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi, On 07/11/2015 03:18 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message , ken hartman writes: the European Radio Navigation Plan having twice been drafted but never published. The view seems to bee that the introduction of Galileo will achieve resilient PNT, which it will not.” The reason

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C reception in the UK

2015-07-11 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message , ken hartman writes: >the European Radio Navigation Plan having twice been drafted >but never published. The view seems to bee that the introduction of Galileo >will achieve resilient PNT, which it will not.” The reason the ERNP wasn't published, was that it concluded that 4

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C reception in the UK

2015-07-11 Thread Björn
Datum:2015-07-10 22:46 (GMT+01:00) Till: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Rubrik: Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C reception in the UK from: http://gpsworld.com/eloran-progresses-toward-gps-back-up-role-in-u-s-europe/ “Both Norway and France have declared an intention to cease

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C reception in the UK

2015-07-11 Thread Iain Young
On 10/07/15 21:46, ken hartman wrote: from: http://gpsworld.com/eloran-progresses-toward-gps-back-up-role-in-u-s-europe/ “Both Norway and France have declared an intention to cease Loran transmissions at the end of 2015. Moreover, France intends to dismantle its Loran infrastructure in 2016. A

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C reception in the UK

2015-07-10 Thread ken hartman
from: http://gpsworld.com/eloran-progresses-toward-gps-back-up-role-in-u-s-europe/ “Both Norway and France have declared an intention to cease Loran transmissions at the end of 2015. Moreover, France intends to dismantle its Loran infrastructure in 2016. Arrangements for the commercial operation

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C reception in the UK

2015-07-10 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi Dave: The quality of the signal goes down with distance from the transmitter. If you get a sledgehammer sounding signal then you'll get a good time fix, but if you can barely hear the signal then the quality will be poor. Middletown, California to Ukiah, California is strong, but any other

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C reception in the UK

2015-07-10 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Loran should work fine in the UK as long as the European chains stay up and running. They don’t seem to be at any risk of shutting down at the moment. Bob > On Jul 10, 2015, at 8:14 AM, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) > wrote: > > How good/bad would a LORAN-C frequency reference s

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C reception in the UK

2015-07-10 Thread Wojciech Owczarek
Dave, I'm afraid I can't give you a quantitative answer about LORAN-C, but I can say that eLORAN is your friend. It has recently been revived in the US and it's doing all right in Europe, UK included. The promise in general is 50 ns to UTC. UrsaNav make some receivers and Chronos (who are a big eL

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C reception in the UK

2015-07-10 Thread Iain Young
Hi David On 10/07/15 13:14, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) wrote: How good/bad would a LORAN-C frequency reference such as the Stanford Research FS700 work in the UK? I live about 60 km to the east of central London. My Austron 2100's lock on to Anthorn, Lessay, and Sylt. I'm in Cov

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C reception in the UK

2015-07-10 Thread Alan Melia
fts at night at more extreme range. This should not be a problem at your range from Lessay. Alan G3NYK - Original Message - From: "Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd)" To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 1:14 P

Re: [time-nuts] LORAN-C reception in the UK

2015-07-10 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message , "Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd)" writes: >How good/bad would a LORAN-C frequency reference such as the Stanford >Research FS700 work in the UK? I live about 60 km to the east of central >London. It should work OK. > >Is there any future for LORAN-C in the UK? I b

[time-nuts] LORAN-C reception in the UK

2015-07-10 Thread Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd)
How good/bad would a LORAN-C frequency reference such as the Stanford Research FS700 work in the UK? I live about 60 km to the east of central London. Is there any future for LORAN-C in the UK? I am looking for a frequency reference that is not GPS - I already have a GPS frequency reference but