Re: [time-nuts] Limitations of Allan Variance applied to frequency divided signal?

2011-05-15 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi Fred, On 05/15/2011 10:01 PM, Tijd Dingen wrote: Check. That is what I understood the "Overlapped variable tau estimators" bit on wikipedia to be about. Same raw data, smarter processing. Indeed. Notice that you need to adjust your data for cycle-slips. If you don't do that you will get

Re: [time-nuts] Limitations of Allan Variance applied to frequency divided signal?

2011-05-15 Thread Tijd Dingen
Hi Magnus, Magnus Danielson wrote: >>> Notice that the pre-scaler is only used for higher frequencies. >> Understood. I was just using the prescaler as an example for the "what if >> if take every Nth edge". > Consider then the typical measurement setup: > A counter is set up to make a time int

Re: [time-nuts] Limitations of Allan Variance applied to frequency divided signal?

2011-05-15 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi Fred, On 05/14/2011 01:02 PM, Tijd Dingen wrote: Magnus Danielson wrote: Notice that the pre-scaler is only used for higher frequencies. Understood. I was just using the prescaler as an example for the "what if if take every Nth edge". Consider then the typical measurement setup: A coun

Re: [time-nuts] Limitations of Allan Variance applied to frequency divided signal?

2011-05-14 Thread Tijd Dingen
Magnus Danielson wrote: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allan_variance#Non-overlapped_variable_.CF.84_estimators > Nice to see people actually read and use what I wrote. :-) > If you use a prescaler of say 1/64 then it takes 64 cycles of the original > signal to cause a cycle to the counter

Re: [time-nuts] Limitations of Allan Variance applied to frequency divided signal?

2011-05-14 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 05/13/2011 05:28 PM, Tijd Dingen wrote: In trying to put together a way to calculate Allan variance based on a series of timestamps of every Nth cycle, I ran into the following... Suppose you have an input signal, but it's a bit on the high side. So you use a prescaler to divide it down to

[time-nuts] Limitations of Allan Variance applied to frequency divided signal?

2011-05-13 Thread Tijd Dingen
In trying to put together a way to calculate Allan variance based on a series of timestamps of every Nth cycle, I ran into the following... Suppose you have an input signal, but it's a bit on the high side. So you use a prescaler to divide it down to a manageable frequency range. And now you wan