Re: [time-nuts] Linear Interpolator

2006-07-21 Thread Magnus Danielson
From: Paul Boven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Linear Interpolator Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 00:54:35 +0200 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hi fellow time-nuts, > > Stephan Sandenbergh wrote: > > > I also read the article posted earlier by Tom

Re: [time-nuts] Linear Interpolator

2006-07-20 Thread John Day
Excellent paper, nice to see some amateurs working at home-brew still! john At 06:54 PM 7/20/2006, you wrote: >Hi fellow time-nuts, > >Stephan Sandenbergh wrote: > > > I also read the article posted earlier by Tom van Baak (Thanks Tom! This is > > indeed a very comprehensive article.) It turns o

Re: [time-nuts] Linear Interpolator

2006-07-20 Thread Paul Boven
Hi fellow time-nuts, Stephan Sandenbergh wrote: > I also read the article posted earlier by Tom van Baak (Thanks Tom! This is > indeed a very comprehensive article.) It turns out that you can implement a > very elegant linear interpolator using a digital delay line inside a FPGA. > It is called t

Re: [time-nuts] Linear Interpolator

2006-07-04 Thread Stephan Sandenbergh
Hi Ulrich, Thanks for the useful link. Regards, Stephan. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ulrich Bangert Sent: 01 July 2006 05:39 PM To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Linear In

Re: [time-nuts] Linear Interpolator

2006-07-03 Thread Robert Atkinson
iginal Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brooks Shera Sent: 30 June 2006 22:54 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Linear Interpolator Inspired by Ulrich's lead regarding the high resolution TDC, I asked th

Re: [time-nuts] Linear Interpolator

2006-07-01 Thread Ulrich Bangert
stuff but not at the prices of ACAM. Regards Ulrich > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Stephan Sandenbergh > Gesendet: Freitag, 30. Juni 2006 14:02 > An: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurem

Re: [time-nuts] Linear Interpolator

2006-06-30 Thread Chuck Harris
Christopher Hoover wrote: >> For me the catch seems to be that they are packaged in a QFN-32. >> The pin spacing is 500 microns and the open space between the >> solder pads is only 200 microns. Perhaps I am too timid but this >> sounds like trouble for manual soldering, that's assuming the low >

Re: [time-nuts] Linear Interpolator

2006-06-30 Thread Christopher Hoover
> For me the catch seems to be that they are packaged in a QFN-32. > The pin spacing is 500 microns and the open space between the > solder pads is only 200 microns. Perhaps I am too timid but this > sounds like trouble for manual soldering, that's assuming the low > cost PCB suppliers could mak

Re: [time-nuts] Linear Interpolator

2006-06-30 Thread Brooke Clarke
t;$2298. Oh well. > >Brooks > > >- Original Message - >From: "Ulrich Bangert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'" >; "'Magnus Danielson'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [time-nuts] Linear Interpolator

2006-06-30 Thread Brooks Shera
quot;'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'" ; "'Magnus Danielson'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 11:41 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Linear Interpolator Hi Stephan, if you need a ps resolution time interval counter for use

Re: [time-nuts] Linear Interpolator

2006-06-30 Thread Magnus Danielson
From: "Stephan Sandenbergh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Linear Interpolator Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:02:11 +0200 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hi Ulrich, Stephan, > Thanks for the tip. And, also many thanks to Magnus for introducing me to >

Re: [time-nuts] Linear Interpolator

2006-06-30 Thread Stephan Sandenbergh
Hi Ulrich, Thanks for the tip. And, also many thanks to Magnus for introducing me to the concept of Time-to-Digital conversion. It is a brilliant and yet so simple technique. (Until yesterday, I blissfully believed that a fast clocking counter was one's best bet.) Accordingly, I did a bit of res

Re: [time-nuts] Linear Interpolator

2006-06-29 Thread Tom Van Baak
> if you need a ps resolution time interval counter for use in a project > of your own, why not simply go out and buy you one? For example here > > http://www.acam.de/index.php?id=105 > > They are not that expensive because they are made to be married with > cheap sensors. Ulrich, Thanks for tha

Re: [time-nuts] Linear Interpolator

2006-06-29 Thread Ulrich Bangert
Hi Stephan, if you need a ps resolution time interval counter for use in a project of your own, why not simply go out and buy you one? For example here http://www.acam.de/index.php?id=105 They are not that expensive because they are made to be married with cheap sensors. However, you may also

Re: [time-nuts] Linear Interpolator

2006-06-29 Thread Stephan Sandenbergh
Hi, >> So you suggest, I take the 10MHz output of my OCXO lock that to a stable >> VCXO (say 64MHz as not to be a harmonic multiple of 10MHz) and then clock >> my FPGA with the resultant output. >I would rephrase that to say that you should lock your low jitter VCXO (of >say 64 MHz) to your stab

Re: [time-nuts] Linear Interpolator

2006-06-29 Thread Magnus Danielson
From: "Stephan Sandenbergh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Linear Interpolator Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 13:58:06 +0200 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > [Magnus Danielson wrote : > I would not do this stuff with a clock lower than 50 MHz today. It is

Re: [time-nuts] Linear Interpolator

2006-06-29 Thread Stephan Sandenbergh
[Magnus Danielson wrote : I would not do this stuff with a clock lower than 50 MHz today. It is easy enought to acomplish it. 10 MHz is nice and dandy for reference, but I would use a low-jitter VCXO and lock it to the 10 MHz and then use that clock for measurements.] Hi, So you suggest, I take

Re: [time-nuts] Linear Interpolator

2006-06-29 Thread Magnus Danielson
From: "Stephan Sandenbergh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Linear Interpolator Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 11:42:16 +0200 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Magnus, Stephan, > Regarding your suggested discrete solution (viz. current mirror, ADC, etc): >

Re: [time-nuts] Linear Interpolator

2006-06-29 Thread Stephan Sandenbergh
Magnus, Regarding your suggested discrete solution (viz. current mirror, ADC, etc): Will it be relatively easy to achieve 1ns resolution and a range of say 100ns (for 10MHz) with sub-nanosecond accuracy? Regards, Stephan Sandenbergh ___ time-nuts m

Re: [time-nuts] Linear Interpolator

2006-06-29 Thread Stephan Sandenbergh
Hi All, Thank you for all the very helpful hints and info. However, I am still confused by some topics related to the analogue interpolator. I can see that designing an analogue interpolator can be tricky, at least as (or probably more) tricky than the DAC feeding the OCXO. Question 1