Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software

2006-01-22 Thread Scott Newell
At 09:30 AM 1/22/2006 +, Rob Kimberley wrote: >I didn't have a link to the on-line version, so the "problem" is now solved. Neither did I, but I'm a good guesser. ;-) -- newell ___ time-nuts mailing list time-nuts@febo.com https://www.febo.com/c

Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software

2006-01-22 Thread Rob Kimberley
uary 2006 02:12 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software At 05:36 PM 1/21/2006 -0800, James Maynard wrote: >Why don't you ask for permission from GPS World before violating their >copyright?

Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software

2006-01-22 Thread Rob Kimberley
Thanks. Good point. Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Maynard Sent: 22 January 2006 01:37 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization

Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software

2006-01-22 Thread Rob Kimberley
time synchronization hardware and software On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 19:37:55 -, "Rob Kimberley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >To all those wanting the 2006 GPS World Survey, I had problems with my >scanner and scanner driver, and cannot get the scans into one PDF file. >Current

Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software

2006-01-22 Thread Rob Kimberley
t will provide time. If the latter, >>>then the list is a very long one indeed. Not sure that such a list >>>exists, but interested to see what others come back with. >>> >>>Kind Regards >>> >>>Rob Kimberley >>> >>>The Time Bandit

Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software

2006-01-21 Thread Scott Newell
At 05:36 PM 1/21/2006 -0800, James Maynard wrote: >Why don't you ask for permission from GPS World before violating their >copyright? Or view the (horrible) on-line 'digital edition'? http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/questex/gps0106/index.php I still have my physical copy on the Jan '06 issue.

Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software

2006-01-21 Thread James Maynard
Rob Kimberley wrote: > >>Just got the January 2006 edition of GPS World. It contains a 20 page >>GPS Receiver Survey. If anyone wants a copy, I am prepared to scan it >>and email it to the group. >> >>Rob Kimberley >> > Why don't you ask for permission from GPS World before violating their c

Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software

2006-01-21 Thread Neon John
On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 19:37:55 -, "Rob Kimberley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >To all those wanting the 2006 GPS World Survey, I had problems with my >scanner and scanner driver, and cannot get the scans into one PDF file. >Currently have all 20 pages as a ZIP file of approx 25MB in size. > >Can

Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software

2006-01-21 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
t. > > Thanks > > Rob Kimberley > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Doug Millar > Sent: 20 January 2006 16:56 > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > Subject: Re: [time-

Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software

2006-01-21 Thread Rob Kimberley
Rob Kimberley -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Millar Sent: 20 January 2006 16:56 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software Hi Rob

Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software

2006-01-20 Thread Arnold Tibus
Hello Rob, thanks for that interesting offer, I'm interested on! Arnold On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:18:23 -, Rob Kimberley wrote: >Just got the January 2006 edition of GPS World. It contains a 20 page GPS >Receiver Survey. If anyone wants a copy, I am prepared to scan it and email >it to the gro

Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software

2006-01-20 Thread Doug Millar
group. > >Rob Kimberley > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >Behalf Of Alan Kruse >Sent: 16 January 2006 19:16 >To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement >Subject: Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware

Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software

2006-01-20 Thread Rob Kimberley
e and frequency measurement' Subject: Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software I'd like a copy, thanks. Joe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Kimberley Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 4:18 AM To: 'D

Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software

2006-01-20 Thread Daun Yeagley
D] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Kruse Sent: 16 January 2006 19:16 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software Hi, I was referring to a list of hardware or software that will provide time. Al On 1/

Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software

2006-01-20 Thread Joe Grossbauer
f Of Alan Kruse Sent: 16 January 2006 19:16 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software Hi, I was referring to a list of hardware or software that will provide time. Al On 1/16/06, Rob Kimberley <[EMAIL

Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software

2006-01-20 Thread Rob Kimberley
January 2006 19:16 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software Hi, I was referring to a list of hardware or software that will provide time. Al On 1/16/06, Rob Kimberley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software

2006-01-17 Thread Magnus Danielson
From: Warner Losh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:55:19 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I don't know the details, but it is reasnoble that the GPS reference > >

Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software

2006-01-17 Thread Warner Losh
> I don't know the details, but it is reasnoble that the GPS reference stations > positions in WGS-84 will keep the GPS coordinate system locked correctly. > Time to read-up on the WGS-84 coordinate system and its relations to time- > scales again. They do relate one way or the other. The formulas

Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software

2006-01-17 Thread Magnus Danielson
From: Hal Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:50:19 -0800 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hal, I'm gonna babble some here, so the real collectors can correct me and point out all the nit

Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software

2006-01-17 Thread Magnus Danielson
From: David Forbes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:50:58 -0700 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > At 6:40 PM +0100 1/17/06, Magnus Danielson wrote: > > > >But besides that, pulsars

Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software

2006-01-17 Thread Magnus Danielson
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Shoppa) Subject: Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:20:40 -0500 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > "Poul-Henning Kamp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Pulsars were considered for t

Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software

2006-01-17 Thread David Forbes
At 6:40 PM +0100 1/17/06, Magnus Danielson wrote: > >But besides that, pulsars are cool. Since the planet is orbiting, a few pulsar >needs to be continously measured and compensation needs to be >performed for the >rotation. Isn't those used for monitoring the UTC deviations in VLBI? > >Cheers, >M

Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software

2006-01-17 Thread Tim Shoppa
"Poul-Henning Kamp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Pulsars were considered for timekeeping several times in the past, and in > every instance the winning argument was "You want to base our timekeeping > on some cosmic phenomena we don't even know what is ?". Well, look at how dependent NTP and navig

Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software

2006-01-17 Thread Tom
we could check it against the sundial !! tom w0kgw - Original Message - From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Magnus Danielson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] List of time synch

Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software

2006-01-17 Thread Magnus Danielson
From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:21:39 +0100 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Magnus Danielson writes: > > &

Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software

2006-01-17 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Magnus Danielson writes: >However, it may be stable enought for tau in the range of 1 Ms to 1Gs or so, >and that is still usefull. Ohh, absolutely. But how would we know ? -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP

Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software

2006-01-17 Thread Magnus Danielson
From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:52:59 +0100 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Poul-Henning, > >> Even better, pulsars. They have a period that is

Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software

2006-01-17 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Bill Hawkins" writes: >Not to mention the equipment that synchronizes the power grid >to UTC, seamlessly integrating leap seconds. So far the existence of such equipment in contemporary power grids is not really proven, is it ? I know they try to hold the frequen

Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software

2006-01-17 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Magnus Danielson writes: >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Shoppa) >Subject: Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software >Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 20:20:55 -0500 >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> James

Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software

2006-01-17 Thread Magnus Danielson
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Shoppa) Subject: Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 20:20:55 -0500 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > James Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Brooke Clarke wrote: > > &

Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software

2006-01-16 Thread Bill Hawkins
Not to mention the equipment that synchronizes the power grid to UTC, seamlessly integrating leap seconds. It's amazing what you can stir up with an open-ended query. 1. What is the purpose of the equipment? To provide approximate time-of-day for human use or to provide precision that only a comp

Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software

2006-01-16 Thread Tim Shoppa
James Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brooke Clarke wrote: > > Astronomical methods, such as sundials might deserve a place on the list. > Indeed. Sundials, or menhirs, such as those at Stonehenge! Even better, pulsars. They have a period that is usually the same order of magnitude as a sec

Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software

2006-01-16 Thread James Maynard
Brooke Clarke wrote: > Hi James: > > Astronomical methods, such as sundials might deserve a place on the list. > > 73, > > Brooke Clarke, N6GCE > Indeed. Sundials, or menhirs, such as those at Stonehenge! However, on re-reading the original poster's request, I see he was look for "time synch

Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software

2006-01-16 Thread Neal McBurnett
On Mon, Jan 16, 2006 at 03:14:44PM -0800, Brooke Clarke wrote: > Hi James: > > Astronomical methods, such as sundials might deserve a place on the list. Absolutely. Over the long term, these are often the most accurate, where the periodic motion of some astronomical body provides a frequency sou

Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software

2006-01-16 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi James: Astronomical methods, such as sundials might deserve a place on the list. 73, Brooke Clarke, N6GCE -- w/Java http://www.PRC68.com w/o Java http://www.pacificsites.com/~brooke/PRC68COM.shtml http://www.precisionclock.com >A clock consists of a frequency standard plus a counter. Acc

Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software

2006-01-16 Thread James Maynard
Alan Kruse wrote: > Hi, > > I was referring to a list of hardware or software that will provide time. > > Al > > > On 1/16/06, Rob Kimberley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Hi Al, >> >>When you say "time synchronisation hardware and Software" do you mean NTP >>compatible or any hardware that wi

Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software

2006-01-16 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Alan Kruse wrote: > Hi, > > I was referring to a list of hardware or software that will provide time. > > Al My 19th century French clock provides the time !! No software needed. My computer, made by Sun, has a built in clock too. You need to be a bit more precise about what you want. ___

Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software

2006-01-16 Thread Alan Kruse
ey > > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Alan Kruse > Sent: 16 January 2006 03:01 > To: time-nuts@febo.com > Subject: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software > > Hello, > >

Re: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software

2006-01-16 Thread Rob Kimberley
gards Rob Kimberley The Time Bandit mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: robkimberley -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Kruse Sent: 16 January 2006 03:01 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware an

[time-nuts] List of time synchronization hardware and software

2006-01-15 Thread Alan Kruse
Hello, Does anyone know of a comprehensive list of time synchronization hardware and software? Thanks Al [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ time-nuts mailing list time-nuts@febo.com https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts