Re: [time-nuts] M$-Vi$ta-compliant PC RTC clock card?

2007-09-21 Thread Maggie Leber
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY On 9/21/07, Didier Juges <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We are entering an era of "Trusted Computing", which means that Microsoft > and it's DRM friends trust that you can only do what they expressly allow > you to do on your com

Re: [time-nuts] M$-Vi$ta-compliant PC RTC clock card?

2007-09-21 Thread Didier Juges
ber 21, 2007 5:10 AM > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] M$-Vi$ta-compliant PC RTC clock card? > > > > It is also possible that some older software or hardware will NEVER > > work with Vista because of choices Microsoft ma

Re: [time-nuts] M$-Vi$ta-compliant PC RTC clock card?

2007-09-21 Thread Bob Paddock
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY > It is also possible that some older software or hardware will NEVER work > with Vista because of choices Microsoft made in developing the new > platform. http://www.badvista.org "What's wrong with Microsoft Windows Vista?"

Re: [time-nuts] M$-Vi$ta-compliant PC RTC clock card?

2007-09-20 Thread Hal Murray
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY > One factor to remember about good ol' PCs is that not all of the > timing problem is down to the RTC. A lot of timing errors are down to > Interrupts. A busy PC can lose 100s of milliseconds a day as a result > of Interrupt a

Re: [time-nuts] M$-Vi$ta-compliant PC RTC clock card?

2007-09-20 Thread Jason Rabel
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY You never said what your system hardware was, Intel has been making PCs for several decades now. With the newer systems there is so much dynamic throttling of components that issues like this are bound to arise. Replacing the c

Re: [time-nuts] M$-Vi$ta-compliant PC RTC clock card?

2007-09-20 Thread Rob Kimberley
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Maggie Leber Sent: 20 September 2007 16:02 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] M$-Vi$ta-compliant PC RTC clock card? ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY On 9/19/07, Jam

Re: [time-nuts] M$-Vi$ta-compliant PC RTC clock card?

2007-09-20 Thread Maggie Leber
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY On 9/19/07, James Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (I know that some on this list will say, "You nitwit, you should be another OS > than M$ Vista." Such replies will not be helpful to me.) Sadly, if you wish to have direct

Re: [time-nuts] M$-Vi$ta-compliant PC RTC clock card?

2007-09-20 Thread GandalfG8
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY In a message dated 20/09/2007 12:28:40 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Nigel, The ClockBlock is more suited to the main processor clock as it's only specified down to a few hundred kilohertz. It would be O

Re: [time-nuts] M$-Vi$ta-compliant PC RTC clock card?

2007-09-20 Thread Robert Atkinson
EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 September 2007 11:49 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] M$-Vi$ta-compliant PC RTC clock card? ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY In a message dated 20/09/2007 08:24:1

Re: [time-nuts] M$-Vi$ta-compliant PC RTC clock card?

2007-09-20 Thread Rob Kimberley
11:49 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] M$-Vi$ta-compliant PC RTC clock card? ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY In a message dated 20/09/2007 08:24:18 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Being a hardware kind of guy, my approach wo

Re: [time-nuts] M$-Vi$ta-compliant PC RTC clock card?

2007-09-20 Thread GandalfG8
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY In a message dated 20/09/2007 08:24:18 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Being a hardware kind of guy, my approach would be a little different. Why not remove the 32.768kHz crystal and feed the existing RTC wit

Re: [time-nuts] M$-Vi$ta-compliant PC RTC clock card?

2007-09-20 Thread Chuck Harris
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY You don't even have to remove the crystal, just clip on a wire with a reasonably strong 32KHz signal and everything will lock on. -Chuck Harris Robert Atkinson wrote: > ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false > Errors-To: [EMAIL PR

Re: [time-nuts] M$-Vi$ta-compliant PC RTC clock card?

2007-09-20 Thread Robert Atkinson
a market here. Robert G8RPI. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Maynard Sent: 20 September 2007 01:03 To: time-nuts@febo.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [time-nuts] M$-Vi$ta-compliant PC RTC clock card

Re: [time-nuts] M$-Vi$ta-compliant PC RTC clock card?

2007-09-19 Thread Joseph Gray
let me stop > Or pause that service. > > Jim K7KK > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Joseph Gray > Sent: Wednesday, 2007 September 19 18:12 > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > Subje

Re: [time-nuts] M$-Vi$ta-compliant PC RTC clock card?

2007-09-19 Thread James Maynard
Jim K7KK -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joseph Gray Sent: Wednesday, 2007 September 19 18:12 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] M$-Vi$ta-compliant PC RTC clock card? I don't remember the p

Re: [time-nuts] M$-Vi$ta-compliant PC RTC clock card?

2007-09-19 Thread Joseph Gray
ember 19, 2007 7:05 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] M$-Vi$ta-compliant PC RTC clock card? > > >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Maynard >> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 7:03 PM >> To: tim

Re: [time-nuts] M$-Vi$ta-compliant PC RTC clock card?

2007-09-19 Thread Didier Juges
; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [time-nuts] M$-Vi$ta-compliant PC RTC clock card? > >... > (I know that some on this list will say, "You nitwit, you > should be another OS than M$ Vista." Such replies will not be > helpful to me.) > > James Maynard, K7KK > Sal

Re: [time-nuts] M$-Vi$ta-compliant PC RTC clock card?

2007-09-19 Thread Hal Murray
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY > I have installed Rick Hambly's TAC32+ software. That software tells me > that my motherboard's own Real Time Clock (RTC) is truly horrible: it > drifts at a rate of about 5000 microseconds per second and is > unstable, too. I

[time-nuts] M$-Vi$ta-compliant PC RTC clock card?

2007-09-19 Thread James Maynard
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY I have been assembling my own PC, using an Intel motherboard and MS Vista operating system. I want to use it in my local time-nuts hobby of comparing comparing the performance of various oscillators and clocks. I have installed