[time-nuts] M12+T ASCII interface - I'm confused?

2008-11-19 Thread Stephan Sandenbergh
Hi All, Up until now we've been interfacing my Motorola M12+T's using the Oncore software. However, at this point we are trying to have it interfaced directly to a FPGA. To my mind this should be simple - the commands are discriminated (framed) by looking at the start and terminating bytes sequenc

Re: [time-nuts] M12+T ASCII interface - I'm confused?

2008-11-19 Thread Stanley Reynolds
+userguide.pdf   From: Stephan Sandenbergh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:29:59 AM Subject: [time-nuts] M12+T ASCII interface - I'm confused? Hi All, Up until now we've bee

Re: [time-nuts] M12+T ASCII interface - I'm confused?

2008-11-19 Thread David C. Partridge
ecise time and frequency measurement Subject: [time-nuts] M12+T ASCII interface - I'm confused? Hi All, Up until now we've been interfacing my Motorola M12+T's using the Oncore software. However, at this point we are trying to have it interfaced directly to a FPGA. To my mind this sh

Re: [time-nuts] M12+T ASCII interface - I'm confused?

2008-11-19 Thread David C. Partridge
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Re: [time-nuts] M12+T ASCII interface - I'm confused?

2008-11-19 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi Stephan: Check the manual for "stuffing", it's not a Thanksgiving term here but has to do with what happens when a byte in a binary data stream (the data in the Motorola protocol is all binary, not ASCII) is the same as the ASCII "@" character. This means that the length of a packet is vari

Re: [time-nuts] M12+T ASCII interface - I'm confused?

2008-11-19 Thread Tom Van Baak
Stephan, Ah, it's not a stupid question -- I think all of us who have written code to interface with GPS receivers have had to deal with this. Some GPS protocols use escape characters, but the Oncore binary protocol doesn't. There are five clues to robustly parsing a complete message: 1) starts

Re: [time-nuts] M12+T ASCII interface - I'm confused?

2008-11-19 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Tom Van Baak wrote: > Stephan, > > Ah, it's not a stupid question -- I think all of us who have written > code to interface with GPS receivers have had to deal with this. > > Some GPS protocols use escape characters, but the Oncore > binary protocol doesn't. There are five clues to robustly parsing

Re: [time-nuts] M12+T ASCII interface - I'm confused?

2008-11-19 Thread Ulrich Bangert
Mittwoch, 19. November 2008 15:30 > An: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > Betreff: [time-nuts] M12+T ASCII interface - I'm confused? > > > Hi All, > > Up until now we've been interfacing my Motorola M12+T's using > the Oncore software.

Re: [time-nuts] M12+T ASCII interface - I'm confused?

2008-11-20 Thread Stephan Sandenbergh
Tom, Thank you for the valuable inputs. I was quietly hoping that I was misunderstanding the protocol in some way. My gut tells me that <@><@> would be believable more than say 95% (if not 99%) of the time. I've got the following observations: - 95% is a bad number in accurate timing applicatio

Re: [time-nuts] M12+T ASCII interface - I'm confused?

2008-11-20 Thread Stephan Sandenbergh
Hi Bruce, Yes - at this point an external processor is not a real option. Are you aware of open source code that I could try out? In hind sight, I should've put a microprocessor core onto the FPGA to do all the management kind of tasks. Regards, Stephan. No need to use an external processor j

Re: [time-nuts] M12+T ASCII interface - I'm confused?

2008-11-20 Thread Stephan Sandenbergh
ussion of precise time and frequency measurement > > Betreff: [time-nuts] M12+T ASCII interface - I'm confused? > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > Up until now we've been interfacing my Motorola M12+T's using > > the Oncore software. However, at this

Re: [time-nuts] M12+T ASCII interface - I'm confused?

2008-11-20 Thread Stephan Sandenbergh
; > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement < > time-nuts@febo.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:29:59 AM > Subject: [time-nuts] M12+T ASCII interface - I'm confused? > > Hi All, > > Up until now we've been interfacing my Motorola M12+T

Re: [time-nuts] M12+T ASCII interface - I'm confused?

2008-11-20 Thread Hal Murray
> My gut tells me that <@><@> would be believable > more than say 95% (if not 99%) of the time. I've got the following > observations: I suggest that you debug things in software and then figure out how to implement that algorithm in the FPGA. You can rearrange code and try again to make it

Re: [time-nuts] M12+T ASCII interface - I'm confused?

2008-11-20 Thread Ulrich Bangert
AIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Stephan Sandenbergh > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 20. November 2008 11:48 > An: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > Betreff: Re: [time-nuts] M12+T ASCII interface - I'm confused? > > > Hi Ulrich, > > Sure - among other thin

Re: [time-nuts] M12+T ASCII interface - I'm confused?

2008-11-20 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Stephan Sandenbergh wrote: > Hi Bruce, > > Yes - at this point an external processor is not a real option. > > Are you aware of open source code that I could try out? > > In hind sight, I should've put a microprocessor core onto the FPGA to do all > the management kind of tasks. > > Regards, > > St

Re: [time-nuts] M12+T ASCII interface - I'm confused?

2008-11-20 Thread Tom Van Baak
> Tom, > > Thank you for the valuable inputs. I was quietly hoping that I was > misunderstanding the protocol in some way. > > My gut tells me that <@><@> would be believable more than > say 95% (if not 99%) of the time. I've got the following observations: > > - 95% is a bad number in accurate

Re: [time-nuts] M12+T ASCII interface - I'm confused?

2008-11-20 Thread Brooke Clarke
t;> From: Stephan Sandenbergh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement < >> time-nuts@febo.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:29:59 AM >> Subject: [time-nuts] M12+T ASCII interface - I'm confused? >> >>

Re: [time-nuts] M12+T ASCII interface - I'm confused?

2008-11-20 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi Stephan: I was wrong about the stuffing. Got confused with other protocols. All the Motorola @@ packets are a fixed length. Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.prc68.com Brooke Clarke wrote: > Hi Stephan: > > Check the manual for "stuffing", it's not a Thanksgiving term here but has to > d