Re: [time-nuts] Mass vs BTU Function

2011-01-27 Thread Mike S
At 07:53 PM 1/27/2011, jimlux wrote... I did do some googling and found this interesting statement in Wikipedia Another way of stating this, is that the volume-specific heat capacity (volumetric heat capacity) of solid elements is roughly a constant. I'll admit that I'm prone to citing Wikiped

Re: [time-nuts] Mass vs BTU Function

2011-01-27 Thread jimlux
On 1/27/11 3:20 PM, Hal Murray wrote: jim...@earthlink.net said: Most metals have a specific heat around .34, where water is 1.0. ( so .34 BTU to raise a pound od aluminum by 1 deg F) Where did you get that? probably misremembering.. Standing in an airport terminal trying to figure out whe

Re: [time-nuts] Mass vs BTU Function

2011-01-27 Thread J. Forster
I got the Thermal Diffusivity definition upside down. -John = > At 05:33 PM 1/27/2011, J. Forster wrote... >>If you want the thermal mass to behave close to an isothermal body, >>diffusivity is very important. >> >>For example, a large mass of still water has high heat capacity, b

Re: [time-nuts] Mass vs BTU Function

2011-01-27 Thread Mike S
At 05:33 PM 1/27/2011, J. Forster wrote... If you want the thermal mass to behave close to an isothermal body, diffusivity is very important. For example, a large mass of still water has high heat capacity, but poor diffusivity. Much of the heat capacity is useless. If the equation given ["T

Re: [time-nuts] Mass vs BTU Function

2011-01-27 Thread Hal Murray
jim...@earthlink.net said: > Most metals have a specific heat around .34, where water is 1.0. ( so .34 > BTU to raise a pound od aluminum by 1 deg F) Where did you get that? This table says: Aluminum 0.215 Copper 0.092 Iron0.107 Lead0.031 http://phoenix.phys.clemson.edu/labs/2

Re: [time-nuts] Mass vs BTU Function

2011-01-27 Thread Chris Albertson
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Perry Sandeen wrote: > List, > > Please help me with this physics question. > > If one has a given cube, say 2 x 2 x 2 inches.  And one has the choice of > aluminum, copper, or lead (just for an example).  Will each store or hold the > same amount of BTUs or doe

Re: [time-nuts] Mass vs BTU Function

2011-01-27 Thread Hal Murray
> If you want a thermal mass to help control temperature swings, the more > heat capacity is good. Isn't more thermal conductivity also desired? It > seems like a substance with low conductivity wouldn't gather/release heat > well. It depends on the time constant (frequency) of the thermal chan

Re: [time-nuts] Mass vs BTU Function

2011-01-27 Thread J. Forster
If you want the thermal mass to behave close to an isothermal body, diffusivity is very important. For example, a large mass of still water has high heat capacity, but poor diffusivity. Much of the heat capacity is useless. -John == > At 04:18 PM 1/27/2011, J. Forster wrote... >>If

Re: [time-nuts] Mass vs BTU Function

2011-01-27 Thread Mike S
At 04:18 PM 1/27/2011, J. Forster wrote... If you are considering conductivity for dynamic reasons, the correct figure of merit is "Thermal Diffusivity" = (Specific Heat) / (Thermal Conductivity) If you want a thermal mass to help control temperature swings, the more heat capacity is good. Is

Re: [time-nuts] Mass vs BTU Function

2011-01-27 Thread J. Forster
If you are considering conductivity for dynamic reasons, the correct figure of merit is "Thermal Diffusivity" = (Specific Heat) / (Thermal Conductivity) -John = > Most metals have a specific heat around .34, where water is 1.0. ( so .34 > BTU to raise a pound od aluminum by 1 deg F

Re: [time-nuts] Mass vs BTU Function

2011-01-27 Thread Jim Lux
Most metals have a specific heat around .34, where water is 1.0. ( so .34 BTU to raise a pound od aluminum by 1 deg F) The have different densities, so on a per volume basis, you want dense. Tungsten for instance or osmium You also need to consider conductivity though. Gold is good On Jan 27

Re: [time-nuts] Mass vs BTU Function

2011-01-27 Thread ehydra
Thermal energy in metals are measured in 'pro kg'. The rest is just calculation. From a practical standpoint I would use copper. You can solder and weld it more easely. Look for how head-fin spreaders work for CPUs. - Henry Perry Sandeen schrieb: List, Please help me with this physics que

Re: [time-nuts] Mass vs BTU Function

2011-01-27 Thread J. Forster
The heat capacity of an object is the "Heat Capacity" = M * Cp M = Mass Cp = Specific Heat (at constant pressure) M = Vol * SG SG = Specific Gravity ( = density/density of water) So, Heat Capacity = Vol * SG * Cp If you want to know how much heat is required to change tempo: Heat = Vol * SG *

[time-nuts] Mass vs BTU Function

2011-01-27 Thread Perry Sandeen
List, Please help me with this physics question. If one has a given cube, say 2 x 2 x 2 inches. And one has the choice of aluminum, copper, or lead (just for an example). Will each store or hold the same amount of BTUs or does the density make a difference? IF the density makes a difference,