Re: [time-nuts] New pics of RFTG-m-Rb, and some comparison details

2007-01-01 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Jason Rabel said the following on 12/31/2006 09:45 PM: > The two units go in (what was told to me) an open frame chassis, it has SMA > and I believe DB-15 connections along the top. The connections on the > chassis split the signals even more, presumably for routing to the rest of > the cell. > >

Re: [time-nuts] New pics of RFTG-m-Rb, and some comparison details

2007-01-01 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Rex said the following on 12/31/2006 08:08 PM: in the boxes, so far. > > I just got an RFG-RB which seems to be a few years newer than the > RFTG-m-RB's. In that one, I can't find any connection to the LPRO Rb > module, in it, that could cause it to be disciplined. The one I have > seems to be sti

Re: [time-nuts] New pics of RFTG-m-Rb, and some comparison details

2006-12-31 Thread Jason Rabel
David, Your thinking pretty much along the same lines as me from your post. FYI, I didn't mean the XO itself, I meant the "XO module" (specifically the GPS/PPS signal). There is also a "RFTG-u REF 0" on eBay, however the picture is so poor I can't make out all the connections. But it too has the

Re: [time-nuts] New pics of RFTG-m-Rb, and some comparison details

2006-12-31 Thread Jason Rabel
The RFG-XO doesn't have a GPS unit in it. It has a 10 MHz in, and of course the 15 MHz out. It also only has three DB9 connection, the 24V, interface, and alarm It is missing the RS-485/1PPS connection. Similar the RFG-RB doesn't have the RS-485/1PPS connection. > I just got an RFG-RB which s

Re: [time-nuts] New pics of RFTG-m-Rb, and some comparison details

2006-12-31 Thread Jason Rabel
The two units go in (what was told to me) an open frame chassis, it has SMA and I believe DB-15 connections along the top. The connections on the chassis split the signals even more, presumably for routing to the rest of the cell. http://campus.pari.edu/k4cso/gps/Lucent/ I was able to contact the

Re: [time-nuts] New pics of RFTG-m-Rb, and some comparison details

2006-12-31 Thread Bill Hawkins
ll Hawkins -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rex Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 7:08 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] New pics of RFTG-m-Rb, and some comparison details On Sun, 31 Dec 200

Re: [time-nuts] New pics of RFTG-m-Rb, and some comparison details

2006-12-31 Thread Rex
On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 09:22:50 -0600, "Jason Rabel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Pretty sure that the RB is disciplined from the XO through the interface >cable. I posted the pinout a couple times before so people can make their >own. I don't so. I think the RB units have just their factory calibrat

Re: [time-nuts] New pics of RFTG-m-Rb, and some comparison details

2006-12-31 Thread David I. Emery
On Sun, Dec 31, 2006 at 09:22:50AM -0600, Jason Rabel wrote: > Pretty sure that the RB is disciplined from the XO through the interface > cable. I posted the pinout a couple times before so people can make their > own. While I may have too much shoe leather in mouth to think clearly, it se

Re: [time-nuts] New pics of RFTG-m-Rb, and some comparison details

2006-12-31 Thread Jason Rabel
Pretty sure that the RB is disciplined from the XO through the interface cable. I posted the pinout a couple times before so people can make their own. As for the 10 MHz on the Rb Why not just get a mini-circuits splitter (cheap on eBay) so you have the 10 MHz from the RB and can still run it

Re: [time-nuts] New pics of RFTG-m-Rb, and some comparison details

2006-12-31 Thread Didier Juges
ussion of precise time and frequency measurement" > > Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 9:01 AM > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] New pics of RFTG-m-Rb, and some comparison details > > > >> Bill Hawkins said the following on 12/31/2006 02:15 AM: >> >> >>> A

Re: [time-nuts] New pics of RFTG-m-Rb, and some comparison details

2006-12-31 Thread jmfranke
ssion of precise time and frequency measurement" Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 9:01 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] New pics of RFTG-m-Rb, and some comparison details > Bill Hawkins said the following on 12/31/2006 02:15 AM: > >> Anybody know how to divide by 2/3rds without a micropr

Re: [time-nuts] New pics of RFTG-m-Rb, and some comparison details

2006-12-31 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Bill Hawkins said the following on 12/31/2006 02:15 AM: > Anybody know how to divide by 2/3rds without a microprocessor? :-) I suspect it would be pretty easy to tap off the 10MHz signal from the XO in addition to (or instead of) the 15MHz output. John __

Re: [time-nuts] New pics of RFTG-m-Rb, and some comparison details

2006-12-31 Thread Dr Bruce Griffiths
Hal Murray wrote: >> If you mean multiply the 15MHz output by 2/3 to generate 10MHz, simply >> use asynchronous divide by 3 counter (2 fliplops) to produce a 5MHz 1/ >> 3 duty cycle (or 2/3) output then filter out the 10MHz 2nd harmonic >> component with a bandpass filter. The 3rd Harmonic (15MHz

Re: [time-nuts] New pics of RFTG-m-Rb, and some comparison details

2006-12-31 Thread David I. Emery
On Sat, Dec 30, 2006 at 02:24:32PM -0500, John Ackermann N8UR wrote: > On the mezzanine board, U302, a Burr Brown ADS7807U (presumably an ADC, > though I haven't looked it up yet) is present on the XO version, but > missing on the Rb version. And, programmable device U103 has a > different number.

Re: [time-nuts] New pics of RFTG-m-Rb, and some comparison details

2006-12-31 Thread Hal Murray
> If you mean multiply the 15MHz output by 2/3 to generate 10MHz, simply > use asynchronous divide by 3 counter (2 fliplops) to produce a 5MHz 1/ > 3 duty cycle (or 2/3) output then filter out the 10MHz 2nd harmonic > component with a bandpass filter. The 3rd Harmonic (15MHz) will > conveniently

Re: [time-nuts] New pics of RFTG-m-Rb, and some comparison details

2006-12-31 Thread David I. Emery
On Sun, Dec 31, 2006 at 01:15:12AM -0600, Bill Hawkins wrote: > Ah, well. I have also received two Lucent KS-24019 L106B, aka > RFTG-m-XO boxes. The serial numbers indicate 95 and 96 construction. > The assembly numbers, 55761ASSY103902-001 (55761 is the CAGE number > for Efratom) have Rev E, S/N 5

Re: [time-nuts] New pics of RFTG-m-Rb, and some comparison details

2006-12-30 Thread Dr Bruce Griffiths
measurement' > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] New pics of RFTG-m-Rb, and some comparison > details > > Ah, well. I have also received two Lucent KS-24019 L106B, aka RFTG-m-XO > boxes. The serial numbers indicate 95 and 96 construction. > The assembly numbers, 55761ASSY103902-001 (55761

Re: [time-nuts] New pics of RFTG-m-Rb, and some comparison details

2006-12-30 Thread Bill Hawkins
CTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David I. Emery Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 11:10 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] New pics of RFTG-m-Rb, and some comparison details On Sat, Dec 30, 2006 at 02:24:32PM -0500, John Ackermann N8UR w

Re: [time-nuts] New pics of RFTG-m-Rb, and some comparison details

2006-12-30 Thread Bill Hawkins
f Of David I. Emery Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 11:10 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] New pics of RFTG-m-Rb, and some comparison details On Sat, Dec 30, 2006 at 02:24:32PM -0500, John Ackermann N8UR wrote: > My RFTG-m-Rb arrived yes

Re: [time-nuts] New pics of RFTG-m-Rb, and some comparison details

2006-12-30 Thread David I. Emery
On Sat, Dec 30, 2006 at 02:24:32PM -0500, John Ackermann N8UR wrote: > My RFTG-m-Rb arrived yesterday, so of course it's in pieces on the bench > today. Photos (along with those of the -XO) are at > http://www.febo.com/time-freq/hardware/Lucent_GPSDO/ My RFTG-m-XO arrived. Seems

Re: [time-nuts] New pics of RFTG-m-Rb, and some comparison details

2006-12-30 Thread Jim Miller
On Dec 30, 2006, at 2:24 PM, John Ackermann N8UR wrote: > My RFTG-m-Rb arrived yesterday, so of course it's in pieces on the > bench > today. Photos (along with those of the -XO) are at > http://www.febo.com/time-freq/hardware/Lucent_GPSDO/ I did some reverse engineering on my RFTG-m-RB last

[time-nuts] New pics of RFTG-m-Rb, and some comparison details

2006-12-30 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
My RFTG-m-Rb arrived yesterday, so of course it's in pieces on the bench today. Photos (along with those of the -XO) are at http://www.febo.com/time-freq/hardware/Lucent_GPSDO/ In looking at the two units, both use the same main and "mezzanine" board, but there are component differences. On the