[time-nuts] OT- RMC sentence and magnetic variation/compensation in GPS module

2011-02-05 Thread Giuseppe Marullo
Hi all, I am unable to understand how to get this field from a RMC sentence, on the GPS I am using (LS20031) the field is empy so I am wondering if this is just a problem of implementation or what. AFAIK, the data is highly variable (location and time) so how is the GPS module able to

Re: [time-nuts] OT- RMC sentence and magnetic variation/compensation in GPS module

2011-02-05 Thread Chris Albertson
The GPS receiver can only compute the direction to true north if the antenna is on a moving vehicle. The GPS looks backward to where you were in the last few seconds and computers the direction of travel. On a fixed antenna this can't work. But even at best the GPS' idea of north is poor. I had

Re: [time-nuts] OT- RMC sentence and magnetic variation/compensation in GPS module

2011-02-05 Thread David Martindale
Garmin receivers provide that data in their RMC sentence. They apparently calculate it automatically using a mathematical model of the earth's magnetic field, so its accuracy would depend on the accuracy of the model. The GPS system itself does not provide a way to measure variation. With the

Re: [time-nuts] OT- RMC sentence and magnetic variation/compensation in GPS module

2011-02-05 Thread Alan Melia
: Saturday, February 05, 2011 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] OT- RMC sentence and magnetic variation/compensation in GPS module The GPS receiver can only compute the direction to true north if the antenna is on a moving vehicle. The GPS looks backward to where you were in the last few seconds

Re: [time-nuts] OT- RMC sentence and magnetic variation/compensation in GPS module

2011-02-05 Thread Giuseppe Marullo
Thanks to all for your answers. I am designing a low cost automagic satellite dish pointer. I was thinking that adding the magnetic compensation to the magnetic compass would be neat, but obviously I can't get it from the internet, still wondering how the GPS could provide a useful value if

Re: [time-nuts] OT- RMC sentence and magnetic variation/compensation in GPS module

2011-02-05 Thread Hal Murray
but obviously I can't get it from the internet Are you sure? still wondering how the GPS could provide a useful value if the modeling is difficult, varying widely in time and space. If you ignore local quirks like big chunks of iron ore, the magnetic declination is a set of smoothly

Re: [time-nuts] OT- RMC sentence and magnetic variation/compensation in GPS module

2011-02-05 Thread Giuseppe Marullo
Are you sure? I guess so, it is a motorhome traveling South and Central Europe without Internet connectivity. Really how could Garmin and others provide such data? Do they allow the user to upload the maps? Never heard about it, but I may be wrong. Giuseppe Marullo

Re: [time-nuts] OT- RMC sentence and magnetic variation/compensation in GPS module

2011-02-05 Thread Mike S
At 12:47 PM 2/5/2011, Chris Albertson wrote... But magnetic variation can be can be gotten from a map... Compensation would always need to be entered by hand. Compensation? Please don't tell me they've changed things, and a great mnemonic is no more. I learned it as

Re: [time-nuts] OT- RMC sentence and magnetic variation/compensation in GPS module

2011-02-05 Thread Cezary Rozluski
At 00:31 06-02-11, you wrote: At 12:47 PM 2/5/2011, Chris Albertson wrote... But magnetic variation can be can be gotten from a map.. e.g. http://www.intermagnet.org/apps/plt/dataplot_e.php?plot_type=dif_plot ___ time-nuts mailing list --