Re: [time-nuts] Off the wall: anyone with experience programmingHP3456A?

2005-09-10 Thread Javier
Hi, Poul, I've the datasheet for the uPD7210 in my 1983/84 Nec Microcomputers Handbook. If you need it, I can scan it for you. Regards, Javier Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: Are you 100% sure this is a problem on the 5370B ? I've spent a lot of time with my logic analyzer while implementing GPI

Re: [time-nuts] Off the wall: anyone with experience programmingHP3456A?

2005-09-10 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Takayuki Hosoda writes: >How do you do. I'm new to time-nuts. > >How about take a look on National Instruments' >NAT7210 Reference manual which is upward >compatible to NEC uPD7210. Yes, I have that already, but since I have the orginal uPD7210 chip, that helps me l

Re: [time-nuts] Off the wall: anyone with experience programmingHP3456A?

2005-09-10 Thread Takayuki Hosoda
How do you do. I'm new to time-nuts. How about take a look on National Instruments' NAT7210 Reference manual which is upward compatible to NEC uPD7210. http://www.ni.com/support/gpib/reg_prog.htm http://digital.ni.com/manuals.nsf/websearch/36E3DF121E92D54E86256DB10046D7DB?OpenDocument&node=1270_U

Re: [time-nuts] Off the wall: anyone with experience programmingHP3456A?

2005-09-10 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Magnus Danielson write >s: > > > >>I think I have the uPD7210 datasheet lying around here if you still need it, >>even for verification. >> >> > >I would love to. I haven't been able to track one down and ended up >using a summary co

Re: [time-nuts] Off the wall: anyone with experience programmingHP3456A?

2005-09-10 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Ackermann N8UR writes: > > > >>In theory, the bus is supposed >>to handshake to avoid that problem, but that's not always reliable on >>the older instruments -- they will report that they're ready for another >>command when in fact t

Re: [time-nuts] Off the wall: anyone with experience programmingHP3456A?

2005-09-10 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Magnus Danielson write s: >I think I have the uPD7210 datasheet lying around here if you still need it, >even for verification. I would love to. I haven't been able to track one down and ended up using a summary condensed into a HP-IB VME card product manual :-(

Re: [time-nuts] Off the wall: anyone with experience programmingHP3456A?

2005-09-10 Thread Magnus Danielson
From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Off the wall: anyone with experience programmingHP3456A? Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 20:24:25 +0200 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Ackermann N8UR writ

Re: [time-nuts] Off the wall: anyone with experience programmingHP3456A?

2005-09-10 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Ackermann N8UR writes: >In theory, the bus is supposed >to handshake to avoid that problem, but that's not always reliable on >the older instruments -- they will report that they're ready for another >command when in fact they aren't. In fact, while doing this

Re: [time-nuts] Off the wall: anyone with experience programmingHP3456A?

2005-09-10 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
John Miles wrote: >Interesting; I hadn't run across that. The examples in the manuals commonly >show multiple commands in a single string; maybe the old-school BASIC >controllers were smart enough to pause briefly after transmitting semicolons >or string terminators...? > >-- john, KE5FX > > Yo

Re: [time-nuts] Off the wall: anyone with experience programmingHP3456A?

2005-09-10 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi John: The problem is caused by modern computers being much faster than the ones available in the late 1970s. With the older computers, after sending a command the instrument had plenty of time to make a measurement and format the response. With today's fast computers if you send a comman

RE: [time-nuts] Off the wall: anyone with experience programmingHP3456A?

2005-09-10 Thread John Miles
> By the way -- your wait_for_SRQ routine is a bit different than mine in > that you're testing for 0x800 while I'm calling the board (not the > device) with the iblines command and looking at 0x2000 to test bit 14, > the "busSRQ" signal. I'm using the linux-gpib package, which in theory > mimics

Re: [time-nuts] Off the wall: anyone with experience programmingHP3456A?

2005-09-10 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Tom Van Baak wrote: >>SRQ is definitely a pain, but is hard to do without if you're doing >>anything with multiple instruments on the bus; my current problem is >>trying to read frequency from a 5370A and voltage from the 3456A to plot >>VCO performance. Without the SRQ, I'm getting missing voltme

Re: [time-nuts] Off the wall: anyone with experience programmingHP3456A?

2005-09-10 Thread Tom Van Baak
> SRQ is definitely a pain, but is hard to do without if you're doing > anything with multiple instruments on the bus; my current problem is > trying to read frequency from a 5370A and voltage from the 3456A to plot > VCO performance. Without the SRQ, I'm getting missing voltmeter readings. Does