Folks may be interested in this article:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-18497083
A group of experts has urged funders of UK research to encourage
scientists to publish their results in journals that offer free public
access to findings.
A report by Dame Janet Finch argues
measurement time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2012 4:03:33 PM
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li...@lazygranch.com wrote:
Terman Library (Stanford) used let any schmuck use the computers in the
library. You could email the articles to yourself. Now it requires a
password.
BTW
The ACM and IEEE sites are subscription sites. They
never give up the goodies. This silly confection only
works on sites that nag you to pay for access.
-Chuck Harris
DaveH wrote:
(cough) http://www.breakthepaywall.com/ (cough)
IE7 on up...
CAVEAT: I have not tried these on the ACM or
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Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 06:15
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Its actully pretty pervasive
Then what happened ?
--- On Tue, 6/5/12, J. Forster j...@quikus.com wrote:
From: J. Forster j...@quikus.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Paywall rant
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com
Date: Tuesday, June 5, 2012, 12:45 PM
Good luck.
About 20 years ago, I
rid of stuff w/o having to pay disposal fees.
Best,
-John
=
Then what happened ?
--- On Tue, 6/5/12, J. Forster j...@quikus.com wrote:
From: J. Forster j...@quikus.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Paywall rant
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
li...@lazygranch.com said:
Pay-walls on technical journals have to go. The IEEE doesn't pay the author
for the article. They used to make the author pay a small fee. Anyway, the
exorbitant fees of technical journals discourages cross-discipline research.
You can't be a member of every one of
In message 20120605072656.314c1800...@ip-64-139-1-69.sjc.megapath.net, Hal Mu
rray writes:
The IEEE is particularly behind the times.
As is ACM. I'm told through the grapewine that digital subscriptions
is a major part of their budget, so nothing will be opened unless with
a crowbar.
--
On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 00:26:56 -0700
Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote:
The IEEE is particularly behind the times. I assume it's left over from when
they could get away with it because they only had to jack up the price of
printed stuff by a small amount. Some of this may trace back
I'm in astrophysics and arXiv is there just for that.
Why don't others do that?
Jim
On Tuesday, 5 June 2012, Attila Kinali wrote:
On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 00:26:56 -0700
Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net javascript:; wrote:
The IEEE is particularly behind the times. I assume it's left over
I dropped my membership a couple of years ago. Every single thing cost
money; I couldn't even skim through papers to see if they were
applicable without paying full price and it became increasingly
difficult to justify membership PLUS paying for browsing privileges
especially when
Its actully pretty pervasive these days. I hate those sights so now
carefully see what googles pointing me to before jumping if possible.
So a quick question and not to take the thread.
Anyone know if the old IRE papers might exist someplace for free?
I ran across a few of the actual magazines and
://www.ieee.org/about/today/index.html
From: Poul-Henning Kamp p...@phk.freebsd.dk
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
time-nuts@febo.com
Date: 06/05/2012 03:53 AM
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On 06/ 5/12 06:43 PM, J. Forster wrote:
IMO, the IEEE is pretty much useless for practicing engineers. It is
mostly by and for academics to build up their resumes
YMMV,
-John
I disagree with that. I find the IEEE useful as a practicing engineer. I think a
lot of companies do to. My own
I may still have the option to get something like 600 to 800 lbs of
IRE publications.
I think in South Dakota. If anyone is game/interested I can check.
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 6:15 AM, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote:
Its actully pretty pervasive these days. I hate those sights so now
Good luck.
About 20 years ago, I bought out the entire library of a local RD company
for $10, including well over 50' of 7' high shelves of professional
journals.
(There were a number of books I wanted and I got more than my money's
worth on those.}
Anyway, I tried to sell the journals without
I have a bound set of IRE/IEEE Proceedings from about 1920 to 1985.
If anyone wants them, they are free for the taking.
Rick Karlquist N6RK
J. Forster wrote:
Good luck.
About 20 years ago, I bought out the entire library of a local RD company
for $10, including well over 50' of 7' high
I joined IEEE for a while a few years ago with the hopes of being able to
access the libraries I wanted most. What a shock to find out that I had to
pay additional monies to get access to those files. So I quit the IEEE
and now I keep getting Emails from them asking me to join again at a
reduced
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 13:20:55 -0700
Rick Karlquist rich...@karlquist.com wrote:
I have a bound set of IRE/IEEE Proceedings from about 1920 to 1985.
If anyone wants them, they are free for the taking.
I wouldnt mind getting them.. although i guess i would need another
bookshelf or two. But the
Do it before libraries are outlawed!
Getting information is getting more and more difficult. Perhaps we are
seeing the sunset of the age of information.
On 06/05/12, Tom Harriscelephi...@gmail.com wrote:
A previous employer of mine would not come up with a subscription to
On 06/ 5/12 09:23 PM, Jerry Mulchin wrote:
I joined IEEE for a while a few years ago with the hopes of being able to
access the libraries I wanted most. What a shock to find out that I had to
pay additional monies to get access to those files. So I quit the IEEE
and now I keep getting Emails
Terman Library (Stanford) used let any schmuck use the computers in the
library. You could email the articles to yourself. Now it requires a password.
They don't check for ID to enter the library, but the number of journals they
get in dead tree edition is few.
li...@lazygranch.com wrote:
Terman Library (Stanford) used let any schmuck use the computers in the
library. You could email the articles to yourself. Now it requires a
password.
BTW, the library in Terman hall is the Engineering Library
not the Terman Library. A common misconception.
Rick
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 06:15
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Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Paywall rant
Its actully pretty pervasive these days. I hate those sights so now
carefully see what googles pointing me to before jumping if possible.
So a quick question
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