Re: [time-nuts] Racal 9475 Rubidium

2018-05-03 Thread Dan Rae
On 5/3/2018 9:55 AM, Bob kb8tq wrote: Hi You *really* need to keep the baseplate of the FRK series devices down. Their reliability drops quite a bit as you go from 40 to 50 to 60 C on the baseplate. I would avoid boosting the input voltage without a very good heatsink ( or heatsink + fan ) set

Re: [time-nuts] Racal 9475 Rubidium

2018-05-03 Thread Paul Bicknell
: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Racal 9475 Rubidium On 5/3/2018 7:38 AM, Adrian Godwin wrote: > What sort of heatsink does it need ? Do you need the original part or would > a lightly-machined generic module do ? > At the time, at least in the UK, it was a very common extrusi

Re: [time-nuts] Racal 9475 Rubidium

2018-05-03 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi You *really* need to keep the baseplate of the FRK series devices down. Their reliability drops quite a bit as you go from 40 to 50 to 60 C on the baseplate. I would avoid boosting the input voltage without a very good heatsink ( or heatsink + fan ) setup. I’ve …. ummm ….. cooked … a number

Re: [time-nuts] Racal 9475 Rubidium

2018-05-03 Thread Nick Sayer via time-nuts
> On May 2, 2018, at 7:13 PM, Roger Tilsley wrote: > > > > In my experience, FRK modules produce their best performance when operated > from a supply voltage between 27 V and 28 V, selected for individual units > but 27.6 V is a good starting figure. Would there be any value to designing

Re: [time-nuts] Racal 9475 Rubidium

2018-05-03 Thread Adrian Godwin
Like this one ? Yes, very common - I'm sure something suitable could be found, if not in my junkbox then at an amateur radio sale. http://radioattic.com/images/martin/Martin_Astron_RS-20A_more.jpg On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 4:37 PM, Dan Rae wrote: > On 5/3/2018 7:38 AM, Adrian Godwin wrote: > >> W

Re: [time-nuts] Racal 9475 Rubidium

2018-05-03 Thread Dan Rae
On 5/3/2018 7:38 AM, Adrian Godwin wrote: What sort of heatsink does it need ? Do you need the original part or would a lightly-machined generic module do ? At the time, at least in the UK, it was a very common extrusion, often used for power supplies etc., and in fact I see two on the back of

Re: [time-nuts] Racal 9475 Rubidium

2018-05-03 Thread Adrian Godwin
What sort of heatsink does it need ? Do you need the original part or would a lightly-machined generic module do ? There are some lovely heatsinks in obsolete (server quality) PCs. Huge chunks of copper with a fine fin structure and a matched fan. Not all of them are noisy. On Thu, May 3, 2018 a

Re: [time-nuts] Racal 9475 Rubidium

2018-05-02 Thread Roger Tilsley
Greetings Paul, The Racal 9475 does have some inherent shortcomings, the principal one is due to the power supply and the lack of the purpose-designed heat sink for the FRK module. The unit is built into a “heat-sink case” but to keep the FRK base plate within the specified temperature range R

Re: [time-nuts] Racal 9475 Rubidium

2018-05-01 Thread Jerry Hancock
They also suffer from all the typical electronic component age related faults. I had 5 units that had four bad capacitors each, for instance, and after replacing the caps, they run well. Regards, Jerry > On May 1, 2018, at 6:16 AM, Bob kb8tq wrote: > > Hi > > Ok, quick intro to Rb standard

Re: [time-nuts] Racal 9475 Rubidium

2018-05-01 Thread Dan Rae
On 5/1/2018 2:18 AM, Paul Bicknell wrote: As I have just bought a Racal 9475 Rubidium and it has problems Is there any stock faults ? What is the life of the rubidium standard? The Racal manual for this only covers the support stuff.  Your problem is almost certainly with the Rb modul

Re: [time-nuts] Racal 9475 Rubidium

2018-05-01 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi Ok, quick intro to Rb standards: On an Rb you have a light bulb. It’s a really weird bulb but a bulb none the less. On most (but not all ) designs the bulb has a finite life. Various improvements over the years have stretched out the life. Just when which outfits did which improvements …. w

Re: [time-nuts] Racal 9475 Rubidium

2018-05-01 Thread David C. Partridge
y 2018 10:19 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Racal 9475 Rubidium Hi all new member hear could any of you help with the following information As I have just bought a Racal 9475 Rubidium and it has problems Is there any stock faults ? What is the life of the rubidium standard?

Re: [time-nuts] Racal 9475 Rubidium

2018-05-01 Thread Angus via time-nuts
Hi, There's a copy of the manual at: http://www.ko4bb.com What are the symptoms? Angus. On Tue, 1 May 2018 10:18:35 +0100, you wrote: >Hi all new member hear could any of you help with the following information > > > >As I have just bought a Racal 9475 Rubidium and it has problems > > > >I

[time-nuts] Racal 9475 Rubidium

2018-05-01 Thread Paul Bicknell
Hi all new member hear could any of you help with the following information As I have just bought a Racal 9475 Rubidium and it has problems Is there any stock faults ? What is the life of the rubidium standard? Regards Paul ___ time-nuts ma