Re: [time-nuts] Realistic Tbolt phase noise

2010-03-10 Thread Dave Baxter
You'll need somwhat more than +14V for a generic 7812 to regulate correctly. Also, remember the local (to the regulators) decoupling caps, or some of them make quite good HF oscilators! See the data sheets for the particular regulators used for exact details. Dave B. > -Original Message--

Re: [time-nuts] Realistic Tbolt phase noise

2010-03-09 Thread John Miles
n, KE5FX > -Original Message- > From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com]on > Behalf Of Bob Camp > Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 9:44 AM > To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Realistic Tbol

Re: [time-nuts] Realistic Tbolt phase noise

2010-03-09 Thread life speed
> From: "Bob Camp" > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Realistic Tbolt phase noise > Hi > I think you will find that the noise floor of the ADF4107 (dividers and > phase detector) is a bit higher than -150 at 100 Hz offset at 10 MHz. It > should get you past the -120 lev

Re: [time-nuts] Realistic Tbolt phase noise

2010-03-09 Thread Bob Camp
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Realistic Tbolt phase noise Hi, I am using an ADF4107 and a Crystek resonator, with a LBW of a few 100 Hz. It behaves perfect outside the loop, but inside the loop it is too noisy (not too important for my applic

Re: [time-nuts] Realistic Tbolt phase noise

2010-03-09 Thread Christophe Huygens
cussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Realistic Tbolt phase noise This is with the power supply as provided by TAPR so should be ok. Xtof. On 09/03/10 13:44, Bob Camp wrote: Hi Power supply noise would be the first thought. Next up would be grounding

Re: [time-nuts] Realistic Tbolt phase noise

2010-03-09 Thread Bob Camp
[time-nuts] Realistic Tbolt phase noise This is with the power supply as provided by TAPR so should be ok. Xtof. On 09/03/10 13:44, Bob Camp wrote: > Hi > > Power supply noise would be the first thought. > > Next up would be grounding inside the Thunderbolt (card to case, connectors t

Re: [time-nuts] Realistic Tbolt phase noise

2010-03-09 Thread Robert Atkinson
t: Re: [time-nuts] Realistic Tbolt phase noise To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" Date: Tuesday, 9 March, 2010, 12:50 This is with the power supply as provided by TAPR so should be ok. Xtof. On 09/03/10 13:44, Bob Camp wrote: > Hi > > Power supply

[time-nuts] Realistic Tbolt phase noise

2010-03-09 Thread Christophe Huygens
Hi, I noticed several vendors on Ebay have the t-bolt on sale. However, the once showing their own PN plots seem to get only -115, -120 dBc/Hz at 100Hz. Yet, http://www.leapsecond.com/pages/tbolt/noise.htm seems to have mucht better results: up to -150 depending on power supply. By multiplying

Re: [time-nuts] Realistic Tbolt phase noise

2010-03-09 Thread Christophe Huygens
This is with the power supply as provided by TAPR so should be ok. Xtof. On 09/03/10 13:44, Bob Camp wrote: Hi Power supply noise would be the first thought. Next up would be grounding inside the Thunderbolt (card to case, connectors to case). Bob On Mar 9, 2010, at 7:32 AM, Christophe H

Re: [time-nuts] Realistic Tbolt phase noise

2010-03-09 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Power supply noise would be the first thought. Next up would be grounding inside the Thunderbolt (card to case, connectors to case). Bob On Mar 9, 2010, at 7:32 AM, Christophe Huygens wrote: > Hi, > > I noticed several vendors on Ebay have the t-bolt on sale. > > However, the once showi