Re: [time-nuts] Scopes and 1 PPS signals?

2007-10-25 Thread Didier Juges
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brooke Clarke > Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 1:25 PM > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Scopes and 1 PPS signals? > > Hi Didier: > > When just a diode is used the stretching is only at

Re: [time-nuts] Scopes and 1 PPS signals?

2007-10-25 Thread Brooke Clarke
be if needed to widen the pulse. > > Didier KO4BB > > >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brooke Clarke >>Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 6:24 PM >>To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measu

Re: [time-nuts] Scopes and 1 PPS signals?

2007-10-25 Thread Rob Kimberley
rom: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brooke Clarke Sent: 25 October 2007 02:54 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Scopes and 1 PPS signals? ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Hi Dave: The prob

Re: [time-nuts] Scopes and 1 PPS signals?

2007-10-24 Thread Brooke Clarke
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Hi Tom: It's the period or rep rate I'm trying to determine. The SR620 has the PRS10 Rb as it's external time base. It's the period of the pulse I'm trying to determine. i.e. I'm not at all sure it's a 1 PPS and expect it

Re: [time-nuts] Scopes and 1 PPS signals?

2007-10-24 Thread Tom Van Baak
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY > I tried the SR620. It's bouncing around a 32 Hz period. Brooke, You have a house standard, right? (GPSDO or cesium). Use your SR620 to take a set of N (10 or 100) TI measurements between your local reference and the O-1814

Re: [time-nuts] Scopes and 1 PPS signals?

2007-10-24 Thread Brooke Clarke
pe timebase! > So I still think he wanted to measure the ~10uS pulse width.. > > DaveB, NZ > > - Original Message - > From: "Didier Juges" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'" &g

Re: [time-nuts] Scopes and 1 PPS signals?

2007-10-24 Thread Dave Brown
~10uS pulse width.. DaveB, NZ - Original Message - From: "Didier Juges" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'" Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Scopes and 1 PPS signal

Re: [time-nuts] Scopes and 1 PPS signals?

2007-10-23 Thread Didier Juges
ut the original question :-) Didier > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Brown > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 11:21 PM > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Scopes and 1

Re: [time-nuts] Scopes and 1 PPS signals?

2007-10-23 Thread Dave Brown
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY - Original Message - From: "Didier Juges" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'" Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 3:58 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [time-nuts] Scopes and 1 PPS signals?

2007-10-23 Thread Dean Weiten
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Hi there, One option that I've used is to put a flip-flop on the signal, turning the 1 PPS short pulse into a 1/2 Hz square wave. You can always see that on the DSO, and it may even be easier to catch the rising and falling ed

Re: [time-nuts] Scopes and 1 PPS signals?

2007-10-23 Thread Didier Juges
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brooke Clarke > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 10:20 PM > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Scopes and 1 PPS signals? > > Hi Dider: > > I'll give that a try tomorrow. What does

Re: [time-nuts] Scopes and 1 PPS signals?

2007-10-23 Thread Brooke Clarke
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Hi Dider: I'll give that a try tomorrow. What does your camera setup look like? Digital SLR on tripod? Does that mean the TDS-210 can not do a screen dump to file? I've been looking at the Rigol DS1102CD mixed signal scope.

Re: [time-nuts] Scopes and 1 PPS signals?

2007-10-23 Thread Didier Juges
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY I took some pictures of my Thunderbolt's PPS output. While it's pulse is not quite as narrow as what you report, it's 10uS, way too narrow for the scope to display it in normal ("Sample") mode at 250mS/div (the fastest setting t

Re: [time-nuts] Scopes and 1 PPS signals?

2007-10-23 Thread Brooke Clarke
: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" > > Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 12:20 AM > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Scopes and 1 PPS signals? > > > >>Hi Alan: >> >>I tried. At 100 ms/sq the second pulse would be just off screen to the >

Re: [time-nuts] Scopes and 1 PPS signals?

2007-10-23 Thread Brooke Clarke
IL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of WB6BNQ > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 6:29 PM > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Scopes and 1 PPS signals? > > Hi Brook, > > You could try using a 74123 (or newer va

Re: [time-nuts] Scopes and 1 PPS signals?

2007-10-23 Thread Alan Melia
ement" Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 12:20 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Scopes and 1 PPS signals? > Hi Alan: > > I tried. At 100 ms/sq the second pulse would be just off screen to the right. > At 200 ms/sq the second pulse should be at center screen. Using the window >

Re: [time-nuts] Scopes and 1 PPS signals?

2007-10-23 Thread Didier Juges
2007 6:24 PM > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Scopes and 1 PPS signals? > > Hi Bill: > > I'm sure that would work, but it's something else that needs > to be done sometime in the future. > > I checked the pulse c

Re: [time-nuts] Scopes and 1 PPS signals?

2007-10-23 Thread Brooke Clarke
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Hi Bill: I'm sure that would work, but it's something else that needs to be done sometime in the future. I checked the pulse coming from the M12+T and it's more like 100 ms wide, probably for this reason. Have Fun, Brooke

Re: [time-nuts] Scopes and 1 PPS signals?

2007-10-23 Thread Brooke Clarke
t; > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 11:05 PM > Subject: [time-nuts] Scopes and 1 PPS signals? > > > >>Hi: >> >>While trying to figure out the O-1814 Rb source I found a 1 PPS signal > > that's > >>less than 10 us wide. But using an HP 54501A

Re: [time-nuts] Scopes and 1 PPS signals?

2007-10-23 Thread Hal Murray
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY > Are there scopes that allow the period of a narrow pulse to be > measured that don't cost an arm and leg? Can you use delayed sweep to look at the next pulse? If you have a good PPS source, that's a handy way to calibrate

Re: [time-nuts] Scopes and 1 PPS signals?

2007-10-23 Thread Dave Brown
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY - Original Message - From: "Brooke Clarke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 11:05 AM Subject: [time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] Scopes and 1 PPS signals?

2007-10-23 Thread steve heidmann
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Hi , Isn't 5370 ownership a prerequisite for this group ? Brooke Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi: While trying to figure out the O-1814 Rb source I found a 1 PPS signal that's less than 10 us wide. But using an

Re: [time-nuts] Scopes and 1 PPS signals?

2007-10-23 Thread Daun Yeagley
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Scopes and 1 PPS signals? Hi Brook, You could try using a 74123 (or newer variants) retriggerable one shot to extend the pulse width to a level that would allow you to see it on the scope. BillWB6BNQ Brooke Clarke wrote: > Hi: > > While trying to figure out t

Re: [time-nuts] Scopes and 1 PPS signals?

2007-10-23 Thread WB6BNQ
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Hi Brook, You could try using a 74123 (or newer variants) retriggerable one shot to extend the pulse width to a level that would allow you to see it on the scope. BillWB6BNQ Brooke Clarke wrote: > Hi: > > While trying to

Re: [time-nuts] Scopes and 1 PPS signals?

2007-10-23 Thread Alan Melia
ement" Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 11:05 PM Subject: [time-nuts] Scopes and 1 PPS signals? > Hi: > > While trying to figure out the O-1814 Rb source I found a 1 PPS signal that's > less than 10 us wide. But using an HP 54501A DSO it's almost impossible to > determ

[time-nuts] Scopes and 1 PPS signals?

2007-10-23 Thread Brooke Clarke
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Hi: While trying to figure out the O-1814 Rb source I found a 1 PPS signal that's less than 10 us wide. But using an HP 54501A DSO it's almost impossible to determine the period. http://www.prc68.com/I/O1814.shtml If the d