Re: [time-nuts] Setting clocks 100 years ago

2010-11-06 Thread David
Other Timeballs that I know are Another for the list, some of you will have visited Edinburgh which has run a time gun and ball since the 1860s. I'll spare you the usual links, the foot of this link shows the time gun correction maps that the Edinburgh time nut of the 1860s would would

Re: [time-nuts] Setting clocks 100 years ago

2010-11-06 Thread iov...@inwind.it
Thanks to all for the very pleasant replies. Antonio I8IOV ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Setting clocks 100 years ago

2010-11-05 Thread Rob Kimberley
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Setting clocks 100 years ago OK Bob, I'LL bite ! Why is it 1:00 pm for the ball ? BillWB6BNQ Bob Marinelli wrote: Hi Murray, Actually, the ball at Greenwich drops at 1:00 pm every day. For everyone who can

Re: [time-nuts] Setting clocks 100 years ago

2010-11-05 Thread Hal Murray
When did clocks get good enough to notice the analemma? li...@rtty.us said: My guess would be the 1600's. They certainly had everything they would need before 1620. What happened in 1620 to indicate that people could measure the analemma? One way to discover the analemma is to have a good

Re: [time-nuts] Setting clocks 100 years ago

2010-11-05 Thread Bob Camp
- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of WB6BNQ Sent: 05 November 2010 12:11 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Setting clocks 100 years ago OK Bob, I'LL bite ! Why is it 1:00 pm for the ball

Re: [time-nuts] Setting clocks 100 years ago

2010-11-05 Thread Neville Michie
The variation of solar time was obvious from the time from star observations. Harrison used to line up a scratch on his window with a star disappearing behind a distant roof top to get consistent time intervals when he was adjusting the temperature compensation of his clocks and observing

Re: [time-nuts] Setting clocks 100 years ago

2010-11-05 Thread Dave Brown
if you're ever out this way. DaveB, NZ - Original Message - From: Murray Greenman murray.green...@rakon.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 12:30 PM Subject: [time-nuts] Setting clocks 100 years ago Navigators used chronometers to determine their longitude

Re: [time-nuts] Setting clocks 100 years ago

2010-11-05 Thread Jean-Louis Oneto
: Friday, November 05, 2010 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Setting clocks 100 years ago Another existing sample of a time ball station close to home (for me) is here in Lyttelton near Christchurch, NZ (quake city) http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/timekeeping/2/3 It too suffered some building damage

Re: [time-nuts] Setting clocks 100 years ago

2010-11-05 Thread jimlux
Hal Murray wrote: When did clocks get good enough to notice the analemma? li...@rtty.us said: My guess would be the 1600's. They certainly had everything they would need before 1620. What happened in 1620 to indicate that people could measure the analemma? One way to discover the

Re: [time-nuts] Setting clocks 100 years ago

2010-11-05 Thread Bill Hawkins
I remember the ball dropping at Greenwich at noon GMT, but that's because it was summer, and 1 PM BST. Makes you wonder how they interpolated the hour after the noon transit. Chronometers must have been pretty good by then, or there would have been no point to generating a time signal. The US

Re: [time-nuts] Setting clocks 100 years ago

2010-11-05 Thread Bob Camp
: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bill Hawkins Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 11:00 AM To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Setting clocks 100 years ago I remember the ball dropping at Greenwich at noon GMT

[time-nuts] Setting clocks 100 years ago

2010-11-04 Thread iov...@inwind.it
This evening I happened to hear the nearby church's bell tolling 10 pm, and thought that 100+ years ago this could have been the official time of the town, which maybe was used by people to set their own clocks (if any). But then I wondered, who told the priest what time was it? To what

Re: [time-nuts] Setting clocks 100 years ago

2010-11-04 Thread J. Forster
My impression is that before the Railways and Telegraph, each town had time, based on local solar time, determined by a a noon sight or something similar. That means that towns kept time based on their longditude. Until the railways went long distances, Standard Time and Time Zones were not

Re: [time-nuts] Setting clocks 100 years ago

2010-11-04 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The simple answer is that depends. One big driver for putting up a clock tower in the middle of town was to indeed have one standard that the town could run on. Without that - everybody is on their own. The main clock was often regulated by a simple sundial sitting someplace convenient.

Re: [time-nuts] Setting clocks 100 years ago

2010-11-04 Thread J. Forster
In major ports, which were often protected by forts, there was often a noon gun. In fact there is a joke/math olympics question about the soldier who fired the noon gun, setting his watch every morning by a jewelers clock. The jeweler set his clock every day by the fort's noon gun. -John

Re: [time-nuts] Setting clocks 100 years ago

2010-11-04 Thread Hal Murray
I suspect that if your town was prosperous enough you had a noon sight setup that gave you a bit better accuracy than the sun dial. When did clocks get good enough to notice the analemma? -- These are my opinions, not necessarily my employer's. I hate spam.

[time-nuts] Setting clocks 100 years ago

2010-11-04 Thread Murray Greenman
Navigators used chronometers to determine their longitude. If they were stopped in one place long enough, they could work out longitude by a complicated process of star and lunar observations; however, when they left an established port, they usually took with them a time standard based on local

Re: [time-nuts] Setting clocks 100 years ago

2010-11-04 Thread Bob Camp
Hi My guess would be the 1600's. They certainly had everything they would need before 1620. Bob On Nov 4, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Hal Murray wrote: I suspect that if your town was prosperous enough you had a noon sight setup that gave you a bit better accuracy than the sun dial. When did

Re: [time-nuts] Setting clocks 100 years ago

2010-11-04 Thread Neville Michie
Sun dials easily give you time to about 2 minutes. You have to apply the equation of time but that its often given on the sun dial. A reasonable long case clock would maintain a minute a week, so you would need a lot of cloudy weather to seriously lose track of time. There was not a need of

Re: [time-nuts] Setting clocks 100 years ago

2010-11-04 Thread Bob Marinelli
Hi Murray, Actually, the ball at Greenwich drops at 1:00 pm every day. For everyone who can get to London, the observatory is well worth at least a half day visit, they have several working Harrison clocks and yes you can set your wristwatch at 1:00 when the ball drops :) there is also

Re: [time-nuts] Setting clocks 100 years ago

2010-11-04 Thread WB6BNQ
OK Bob, I'LL bite ! Why is it 1:00 pm for the ball ? BillWB6BNQ Bob Marinelli wrote: Hi Murray, Actually, the ball at Greenwich drops at 1:00 pm every day. For everyone who can get to London, the observatory is well worth at least a half day visit, they have several working

Re: [time-nuts] Setting clocks 100 years ago

2010-11-04 Thread Alan Melia
Lady by David Rooney ISBN 978-0-948065-97-2 www.nmm.ac.uk/publishing - Original Message - From: iov...@inwind.it To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 9:47 PM Subject: [time-nuts] Setting clocks 100 years ago This evening I happened to hear the nearby church's bell

Re: [time-nuts] Setting clocks 100 years ago

2010-11-04 Thread Alan Melia
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Setting clocks 100 years ago OK Bob, I'LL bite ! Why is it 1:00 pm for the ball ? BillWB6BNQ Bob Marinelli wrote: Hi Murray, Actually, the ball at Greenwich drops at 1:00 pm every day. For everyone who can get to London, the observatory is well worth

Re: [time-nuts] Setting clocks 100 years ago

2010-11-04 Thread Bill Hawkins
[mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of iov...@inwind.it Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 4:47 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Setting clocks 100 years ago This evening I happened to hear the nearby church's bell tolling 10 pm, and thought that 100+ years ago this could have