Re: [time-nuts] Simulating Oscillator Noise: DifficultiesSimulatingFlicker FM Noise

2010-04-25 Thread Steve Rooke
Hi Magnus, On 26 April 2010 00:01, Magnus Danielson wrote: >>> I have become old enough that most of the UNIX flavours I have worked on >>> is >>> now deceased or about to. This is mainly the history of commercial >>> UNIXes. > You didn't get me right... UNIX (and offspring Linux) is not dying,

Re: [time-nuts] Simulating Oscillator Noise: DifficultiesSimulatingFlicker FM Noise

2010-04-25 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 04/25/2010 10:55 AM, Steve Rooke wrote: On 25 April 2010 02:39, Magnus Danielson wrote: On 04/24/2010 03:57 PM, Bob Camp wrote: Hi Hmmm, good point. The port must have been to something other than Linux. One of the many flavours of BSD I guess, or one of the many other flavours of UNIX

Re: [time-nuts] Simulating Oscillator Noise: DifficultiesSimulatingFlicker FM Noise

2010-04-25 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Back then our "net" (ARPA net) connection didn't get us to very many places. One of them, ummm, er, did indeed have a copy of what we were looking for. Not quite point and click to get it, but close. I guess I should have said "it hasn't always been easily available *legally*." Bob

Re: [time-nuts] Simulating Oscillator Noise: DifficultiesSimulatingFlicker FM Noise

2010-04-25 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <116cf051-7be6-4f8f-91cc-7cee18ecf...@rtty.us>, Bob Camp writes: >I *really* wish I'd kept labels off of the 9 track tapes that >Western Electric shipped us in 1974 after I spent 6 months doing >paperwork to get our original copy. Unix has been free for a long >time. It's not always bee

Re: [time-nuts] Simulating Oscillator Noise: DifficultiesSimulatingFlicker FM Noise

2010-04-25 Thread Bob Camp
Hi I *really* wish I'd kept labels off of the 9 track tapes that Western Electric shipped us in 1974 after I spent 6 months doing paperwork to get our original copy. Unix has been free for a long time. It's not always been "easily available". If I still had a PDP-11 in the living room the tapes

Re: [time-nuts] Simulating Oscillator Noise: DifficultiesSimulatingFlicker FM Noise

2010-04-25 Thread Steve Rooke
On 25 April 2010 02:39, Magnus Danielson wrote: > On 04/24/2010 03:57 PM, Bob Camp wrote: >> >> Hi >> >> Hmmm, good point. >> >> The port must have been to something other than Linux. > > One of the many flavours of BSD I guess, or one of the many other flavours > of UNIX. > > I have become old en

Re: [time-nuts] Simulating Oscillator Noise: DifficultiesSimulatingFlicker FM Noise

2010-04-24 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 04/24/2010 03:57 PM, Bob Camp wrote: Hi Hmmm, good point. The port must have been to something other than Linux. One of the many flavours of BSD I guess, or one of the many other flavours of UNIX. I have become old enough that most of the UNIX flavours I have worked on is now deceased

Re: [time-nuts] Simulating Oscillator Noise: DifficultiesSimulatingFlicker FM Noise

2010-04-24 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Hmmm, good point. The port must have been to something other than Linux. Bob On Apr 24, 2010, at 9:53 AM, Magnus Danielson wrote: > On 04/24/2010 03:46 PM, Bob Camp wrote: >> Hi >> >> I seem to vaguely recall there being a fairly specific commitment being >> discussed in my case. More o

Re: [time-nuts] Simulating Oscillator Noise: DifficultiesSimulatingFlicker FM Noise

2010-04-24 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 04/24/2010 03:46 PM, Bob Camp wrote: Hi I seem to vaguely recall there being a fairly specific commitment being discussed in my case. More or less porting the same code base over to something like Red Hat (this was the 1980's). One of many projects that never really got off the ground. P

Re: [time-nuts] Simulating Oscillator Noise: DifficultiesSimulatingFlicker FM Noise

2010-04-24 Thread Bob Camp
Hi I seem to vaguely recall there being a fairly specific commitment being discussed in my case. More or less porting the same code base over to something like Red Hat (this was the 1980's). One of many projects that never really got off the ground. Bob On Apr 24, 2010, at 9:22 AM, Magnus Da

Re: [time-nuts] Simulating Oscillator Noise: DifficultiesSimulatingFlicker FM Noise

2010-04-24 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 04/24/2010 02:36 PM, Bob Camp wrote: Hi I think I was the one going to do that ... back in the mid 1980's ... Based on progress to date, I don't think it will be here any time soon ... Well, I have been spending some time to implement several of the algorithms. There are many pieces

Re: [time-nuts] Simulating Oscillator Noise: DifficultiesSimulatingFlicker FM Noise

2010-04-24 Thread Bob Camp
Hi I think I was the one going to do that ... back in the mid 1980's ... Based on progress to date, I don't think it will be here any time soon ... Bob On Apr 23, 2010, at 5:53 PM, Bob Camp wrote: > Hi > > There was somebody going to write a Linux version but he's not very reliable. > W

Re: [time-nuts] Simulating Oscillator Noise: DifficultiesSimulatingFlicker FM Noise

2010-04-23 Thread Bob Camp
Hi There was somebody going to write a Linux version but he's not very reliable. Who was that ... I keep forgetting Bob On Apr 23, 2010, at 5:22 PM, Magnus Danielson wrote: > On 04/23/2010 11:06 PM, Bob Camp wrote: >> Hi >> >> Stable-32 is a great program. > > To my knowledge it only r

Re: [time-nuts] Simulating Oscillator Noise: DifficultiesSimulatingFlicker FM Noise

2010-04-23 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 04/23/2010 11:06 PM, Bob Camp wrote: Hi Stable-32 is a great program. To my knowledge it only runs on Windows... Cheers, Magnus ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/

Re: [time-nuts] Simulating Oscillator Noise: DifficultiesSimulatingFlicker FM Noise

2010-04-23 Thread Bob Camp
Oscillator Noise: DifficultiesSimulatingFlicker FM Noise Wow. Thanks Magnus, Tom, and Bob for all of the information you provided to me about oscillator simulations and particular noise types. I'm going to read and digest it and see if I can get some better results. I'm also going to purchas