Re: [time-nuts] Source for Trimble Bullet GPS antennas?

2009-12-17 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The antenna it's self in these things is a constrained device. Gain and directivity are directly related to each other. If you want to uniformly cover a full hemisphere the gain will be 3 db relative to isotropic. If it is more, you are missing signal somewhere. Of course what you want is

Re: [time-nuts] Source for Trimble Bullet GPS antennas?

2009-12-17 Thread ewkehren
I agree it is the antenna. I have a Volute left over from a boat GPS and it is serving me well. I have no idea how well it prevents multi path, but I get a strong signal. A little trivia, the first GPS receiver used a Volute Bert Kehren Miami In a message dated 12/16/2009 9:29:03 P.M. East

Re: [time-nuts] Source for Trimble Bullet GPS antennas?

2009-12-16 Thread Mike S
At 09:28 PM 12/16/2009, Charles P. Steinmetz wrote... it's not the LNA that does the serious work, but rather the physical antenna...I have RF design experience, based on which I wouldn't put any faith in noise figure specs from any but the most reputable suppliers. I assume Trimble is one su

Re: [time-nuts] Source for Trimble Bullet GPS antennas?

2009-12-16 Thread Charles P. Steinmetz
Bob wrote: The Lucent Bullet is rated as a 26 +/-3 db LNA device. The Trimble Bullet is rated as 30 +/-3 db at 3.3 volts ( for the III model) The Trimble Bullet II is rated as 35 db at 5 volts A lot of the simple antennas are up around 45 db at 3.3 volts. The less specified parameter is noise fi

Re: [time-nuts] Source for Trimble Bullet GPS antennas?

2009-12-16 Thread Bob Camp
t; >> Robert G8RPI. >> >> --- On Tue, 15/12/09, Charles P. Steinmetz >> wrote: >> >> >> From: Charles P. Steinmetz >> Subject: [time-nuts] Source for Trimble Bullet GPS antennas? >> To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement"

Re: [time-nuts] Source for Trimble Bullet GPS antennas?

2009-12-16 Thread Didier Juges
ebay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/lucent-GPS-Timing-Reference-Antenna-26db-Gain-N-connect_W0QQitemZ290369619357QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item439b60c59d   Robert G8RPI. --- On Tue, 15/12/09, Charles P. Steinmetz wrote: From: Charles P. Steinmetz Subject: [time-nuts] Source for Tr

Re: [time-nuts] Source for Trimble Bullet GPS antennas?

2009-12-15 Thread Robert Atkinson
] Source for Trimble Bullet GPS antennas? To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" Date: Tuesday, 15 December, 2009, 22:33 For initial testing of my Thunderbolt I'll use a Garmin GA 29 marine antenna that's lying around, but for my permanent installation

[time-nuts] Source for Trimble Bullet GPS antennas?

2009-12-15 Thread Charles P. Steinmetz
For initial testing of my Thunderbolt I'll use a Garmin GA 29 marine antenna that's lying around, but for my permanent installation I'd like to find an actual Trimble Bullet. The web turns up mostly scam links (search services, etc.), and so far I've not found a source. Any suggestions? Pro