Re: [time-nuts] Surge Arresters

2012-11-27 Thread David Kirkby
On 26 November 2012 15:44, Peter G. Viscarola pete...@osr.com wrote: Hi TimeNuts, What are people using for surge arresters between your GPS receiver and the antenna, at the entrance to your house? Several years ago there was lightning near my house, which I think went on the telephone

Re: [time-nuts] Surge Arresters

2012-11-27 Thread David Kirkby
On 27 November 2012 09:15, David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: If I was reallly concerned, then I'd look at using an optical interace. Use a battery to power the GPS antenna, modulate a laser and detect the RF on a photodiode connected by a metre of so of optical fibre. Of course, I

Re: [time-nuts] Surge Arresters

2012-11-27 Thread Chris Albertson
You really can't protect yourself from a direct strike. But that is rare. More common is a close strike. You first line of defense is to ground the metal mast (pipe). Place a ground clamp on the pipe and run a large ground write by the most direct route to a ground rod driven into the soil.

[time-nuts] Surge Arresters

2012-11-26 Thread Peter G. Viscarola
Hi TimeNuts, What are people using for surge arresters between your GPS receiver and the antenna, at the entrance to your house? I've got an entrance panel set up for HF, with copper ribbon to two ground rods. I'd like to add a connection for my GPSDO. I know the frequency is about 1.6GHz,

Re: [time-nuts] Surge Arresters

2012-11-26 Thread Bob Camp
included the ground strapping and various other useful bits and pieces. Bob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Peter G. Viscarola Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 10:45 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Surge

Re: [time-nuts] Surge Arresters

2012-11-26 Thread Chuck Harris
There really isn't anything that will protect your receiver if the antenna takes a strike. But, if you pass the coax into your house using a well grounded bulkhead connector, you can protect your house. I got one GPS antenna that had an EMP protector attached to it (came from NSA)... since the

Re: [time-nuts] Surge Arresters

2012-11-26 Thread Mark Spencer
I don't use one on my gpsdo feed line. The shield of the feed line is grounded prior to it entering the house and I don't live in a lightning prone area. The gps antenna I use apparently has diode protection to provide some immunity to near by lightning strikes. Most of my radio antennas

Re: [time-nuts] Surge Arresters

2012-11-26 Thread George Dubovsky
I have a box-full of GPS protectors that were built by a company called ZapTech. They are just coaxial gas tubes that seem to have a strike voltage around 60-90 volts. We replaced them with (MUCH) more expensive PolyPhaser units. I use the ZapTechs on all of my long (600-800 ft) low-freq receiving

Re: [time-nuts] Surge Arresters

2012-11-26 Thread Volker Esper
There's not much in this world that is able to reliably protect a radios input from a direct lightning hit (maybe a block of copper instead of the antenna...). But a surge protector (sometimes called EMP protector or surge arrester) can increase the probability that a nearby lightning strike

Re: [time-nuts] Surge Arresters

2012-11-26 Thread Volker Esper
Cable question: I assume that won't be the problem. I use my 26dB Trimble timing antenna with RG-213 because of the low loss (and the low cost). Before that I had 15 m (45 feet) of RG-58 combined with a car roof magnetic patch antenna in use without any problem. Any 50 Ohm cable can be used,

Re: [time-nuts] Surge Arresters

2012-11-26 Thread Bob Camp
26, 2012 2:38 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Surge Arresters Cable question: I assume that won't be the problem. I use my 26dB Trimble timing antenna with RG-213 because of the low loss (and the low cost). Before that I had 15 m (45 feet

Re: [time-nuts] Surge Arresters

2012-11-26 Thread Al Wolfe
Unfortunately, many of the surge arresters available on ebay do not pass DC or have a DC shunt to ground internally. This means they won't work with an amplified antenna. Make sure any suppressor you get will pass the DC current to the antenna. Al, K9SI, retired