[time-nuts] Tektronix TM500 Series Help

2010-01-02 Thread Don @ True-Cal
Happy New Year to all! In working on my TM501 which serves as the power supply for my AM503B current probe, I had to dismount the 2 series pass transistors from the TM case (heat sink). After repair (filter caps) and during remounting the circuit board, Q12 transistor TO-127 case fractured whil

[time-nuts] Tektronix TM500 Series Help

2010-01-03 Thread Mark Sims
The mainframe power transistors are NOT darlingtons. They are plain NPN/PNP power transistors with non-standard pinouts. The non-high power slots are rated at least 15W (The PS503A power supply can drop the 33V DC lines to 0V at 0.4A). The high power slots use normal TO-3 transistors rated

[time-nuts] Tektronix TM500 Series Help

2010-01-03 Thread Mark Sims
The parts are definitely not darlingtons (but then, I have only repaired over 1000 TM500 modules and mainframes...). Both junctions measure around 0.545V. Just about any general purpose power transistor will work just fine. You want devices rated at least 60V and 20W. I would tend to avo

[time-nuts] Tektronix TM500 Series Help

2010-01-03 Thread Mark Sims
Frankly, screw the idea of ordering $30 transistors or paying big shipping charges from Canada. Just go to Ebay, find a cheap TM50X power module, bingo! you're in business! Either use the module as-is or salvage the transistors from it and repair the TM501. TM501 modules are rather hard t

[time-nuts] Tektronix TM500 Series Help

2010-01-03 Thread Mark Sims
Ok, best solution looks like ebay item 230417555926. A TM506 mainframe for $25+36 shipping. The mainframe includes two TM500 "toolbox" modules. Flip the toolboxes back onto Ebay... they can bring around $15-$20 ea (there's guys trying to sell them for $30-$40). Scrap the TM506 for tran

Re: [time-nuts] Tektronix TM500 Series Help

2010-01-02 Thread David C. Partridge
Isn't the pinout of the MJE3055 (BCE) different from the SJE924 (ECB). Dave -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Don @ True-Cal Sent: 02 January 2010 20:33 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Tektronix TM500 S

Re: [time-nuts] Tektronix TM500 Series Help

2010-01-02 Thread Don @ True-Cal
o.com Subject: [time-nuts] Tektronix TM500 Series Help Happy New Year to all! In working on my TM501 which serves as the power supply for my AM503B current probe, I had to dismount the 2 series pass transistors from the TM case (heat sink). After repair (filter caps) and during remountin

Re: [time-nuts] Tektronix TM500 Series Help

2010-01-02 Thread Charles P. Steinmetz
Don wrote: The manual (and device) says Q12 is an NPN, SI, Selected, TO-127 SJE924. For completeness, the complementary Q10 is a PNP, SI, TO-127 SJE925. These transistors types are the same across any TM-Series mainframe. I can't find any SJE or MJE 9xx reference. Does anyone have a cross re

Re: [time-nuts] Tektronix TM500 Series Help

2010-01-02 Thread Don Latham
Try these guys: http://www.sphere.bc.ca/test/ I've dealt with them for Tek parts in the past; they are quite good. Don - Original Message - From: "Don @ True-Cal" To: Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 1:33 PM Subject: [time-nuts] Tektronix TM500 Series Help Happy

Re: [time-nuts] Tektronix TM500 Series Help

2010-01-03 Thread Charles P. Steinmetz
Mark wrote: The mainframe power transistors are NOT darlingtons. They are plain NPN/PNP power transistors with non-standard pinouts. The TO-127 pinout is ECB -- most other plastic power transistor packages are BCE. I just pulled the cover off a TM503, and the 151-0349-00 (and 151-0373-00)

Re: [time-nuts] Tektronix TM500 Series Help

2010-01-03 Thread Don Latham
These external transistors are shown on the PS503 as single transistors, and they are driven by a single stage transistor from an op amp.The external pass transistors for each plug-in could use NTE182 (NPN) and NTE183(PNP). IMHO, the hfe of the NTE devices will be entirely adequate, and they're che

Re: [time-nuts] Tektronix TM500 Series Help

2010-01-03 Thread Don @ True-Cal
find a good source for the TO-127 MJE2801 (ECB) version, I will have to mount it upside down. Regards... Don - Original Message - From: Don Latham To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Tektron

Re: [time-nuts] Tektronix TM500 Series Help

2010-01-03 Thread Charles P. Steinmetz
Mark wrote: The problem with ordering from Sphere is the prices. Their parts tend to be expensive and the shipping is a killer ($22+ last time I ordered) for a simple transistor. You can buy suitable replacements for under $0.50 each. Suitable in the sense of Pd, Vceo, Hfe, and Ft, yes. H

Re: [time-nuts] Tektronix TM500 Series Help

2010-01-03 Thread Charles P. Steinmetz
Don wrote: 1) The devices in any of my TM mainframes are NOT Darlingtons. 2) The actual Q12 device in my TM501 is stamped SJE924 (Tek PN 151-0349-00) These two facts seem contradictory with copied Motorola Data Sheet info but I going with what I see in front of me. If you have a device marke