Re: [time-nuts] Tight-PLL - YOU DON'T NEED TO READ IT IF YOUR FED-UP WITH THE THREAD SO HIT DELETE NOW!

2010-06-06 Thread Steve Rooke
On 6 June 2010 10:21, Bruce Griffiths bruce.griffi...@xtra.co.nz wrote: Steve Rooke wrote: On 5 June 2010 19:07, Bruce Griffithsbruce.griffi...@xtra.co.nz  wrote: Wrong again. No, I'm not wrong Bruce. Your contribution is largely irrelevant to the original discussion. The effect of

Re: [time-nuts] Tight-PLL - YOU DON'T NEED TO READ IT IF YOUR FED-UP WITH THE THREAD SO HIT DELETE NOW!

2010-06-05 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Wrong again. The integration/averaging referred to occurs when one counts the output transitions of the VFC for a fixed time interval. This process needs to be replicated using the sampled EFC data if one is to measure ADEV. Bruce Steve Rooke wrote: I think I have found the source of the

Re: [time-nuts] Tight-PLL - YOU DON'T NEED TO READ IT IF YOUR FED-UP WITH THE THREAD SO HIT DELETE NOW!

2010-06-05 Thread Steve Rooke
On 5 June 2010 19:07, Bruce Griffiths bruce.griffi...@xtra.co.nz wrote: Wrong again. No, I'm not wrong Bruce. The integration/averaging referred to occurs when one counts the output transitions of the VFC for a fixed time interval. This process needs to be replicated using the sampled EFC

Re: [time-nuts] Tight-PLL - YOU DON'T NEED TO READ IT IF YOUR FED-UP WITH THE THREAD SO HIT DELETE NOW!

2010-06-05 Thread Steve Rooke
On 5 June 2010 22:06, Steve Rooke sar10...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 June 2010 19:07, Bruce Griffiths bruce.griffi...@xtra.co.nz wrote: Wrong again. No, I'm not wrong Bruce. The integration/averaging referred to occurs when one counts the output transitions of the VFC for a fixed time interval.

Re: [time-nuts] Tight-PLL - YOU DON'T NEED TO READ IT IF YOUR FED-UP WITH THE THREAD SO HIT DELETE NOW!

2010-06-05 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Steve Rooke wrote: On 5 June 2010 19:07, Bruce Griffithsbruce.griffi...@xtra.co.nz wrote: Wrong again. No, I'm not wrong Bruce. Your contribution is largely irrelevant to the original discussion. The effect of the PLL itself is (or should be) well understood. However various

[time-nuts] Tight-PLL - YOU DON'T NEED TO READ IT IF YOUR FED-UP WITH THE THREAD SO HIT DELETE NOW!

2010-06-04 Thread Steve Rooke
I think I have found the source of the integration issue. I've spent some considerable time ploughing through as many sources of descriptions on ADEV, AVAR and the tight-PLL method. I've even tried looking for the infamous finite time interval integrator which seems to be highly notable by it's