Re: [time-nuts] Time/freq from digital TV

2009-06-14 Thread Magnus Danielson
Poul-Henning Kamp skrev: In message <4a34df9b.4010...@rubidium.dyndns.org>, Magnus Danielson writes: Alan Melia skrev: Actually, this is still far from the thinking I have heard from other sources. They essentially want everything traceable to TAI/UTC. Make sure you ask an exact question.

Re: [time-nuts] Time/freq from digital TV

2009-06-14 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi Alan, Alan Melia wrote: Hi Magnus that may be the case in some countries I suppose. Surely the accuracy is only required at the end of the transmission link, the frames from different sources are then resynchronised, and it is not "necessary" to transmit nationwide accurately synced frames??

Re: [time-nuts] Time/freq from digital TV

2009-06-14 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <4a34df9b.4010...@rubidium.dyndns.org>, Magnus Danielson writes: >Alan Melia skrev: >Actually, this is still far from the thinking I have heard from other >sources. They essentially want everything traceable to TAI/UTC. Make sure you ask an exact question. For source material, they a

Re: [time-nuts] Time/freq from digital TV

2009-06-14 Thread Alan Melia
of frequency distribution in the UK"this does not mean it might not be useful! Alan - Original Message - From: "Magnus Danielson" To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Time/f

Re: [time-nuts] Time/freq from digital TV

2009-06-14 Thread Magnus Danielson
Alan Melia skrev: This may not relate to the USA but a couple of years back I had an interesting chat with a BBC engineer at an NPL Time and Frequency gathering at Teddington. His comment was along the lines of."well there is as you realise not need to sync lines and frames nationally now

Re: [time-nuts] Time/freq from digital TV

2009-06-14 Thread Alan Melia
ill probably be better than absolutely necesary. Alan G3NYK - Original Message - From: "Hal Murray" To: Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 11:18 PM Subject: [time-nuts] Time/freq from digital TV > > My radio has many news stories about the end of analog TV. > > What sort

Re: [time-nuts] Time/freq from digital TV

2009-06-14 Thread Magnus Danielson
David I. Emery skrev: Most network broadcast distribution is via satellite, and satellites move around in their box in the sky so any time or frequency derived from satellite downlinked signals is subject to Doppler shifts over the course of a day as the satellite completes its figure eig

Re: [time-nuts] Time/freq from digital TV

2009-06-13 Thread Don Latham
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Time/freq from digital TV The digital transmitter could have a GPS based frequency reference. I am the CE for a local station (WCIV). We do not use any standard other than what is installed in the transmitter. I have not verified

Re: [time-nuts] Time/freq from digital TV

2009-06-13 Thread David I. Emery
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 09:59:50PM -0400, Glenn Little WB4UIV wrote: > The digital transmitter could have a GPS based frequency reference. > I am the CE for a local station (WCIV). > We do not use any standard other than what is installed in the transmitter. > > I have not verified it, but, I thin

Re: [time-nuts] Time/freq from digital TV

2009-06-13 Thread Glenn Little WB4UIV
The digital transmitter could have a GPS based frequency reference. I am the CE for a local station (WCIV). We do not use any standard other than what is installed in the transmitter. I have not verified it, but, I think that the UHF transmitter frequency is controlled by an OCXO. I will try a

Re: [time-nuts] Time/freq from digital TV

2009-06-13 Thread David I. Emery
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 03:18:16PM -0700, Hal Murray wrote: > > My radio has many news stories about the end of analog TV. > > What sort of time or frequency can I get from a digital TV signal? > > Now that frame buffers are common, does each station use its own master clock? I don't be

[time-nuts] Time/freq from digital TV

2009-06-13 Thread Hal Murray
My radio has many news stories about the end of analog TV. What sort of time or frequency can I get from a digital TV signal? Now that frame buffers are common, does each station use its own master clock? -- These are my opinions, not necessarily my employer's. I hate spam. __