[time-nuts] Time-zones and World time..

2008-10-30 Thread Steve Rooke
Hi, I've been under the radar for a while so have not been able to keep up with the threads I was contributing to but that has been done to death and I will drop them. I've been very interested in reading peoplels thoughts on time-zones. Has there been any moves to adopt a common time for all coun

Re: [time-nuts] Time-zones and World time..

2008-10-30 Thread David Ackrill
Steve Rooke wrote: > I guess the question is, what's the likely-hood of a world standard > time being adopted (sort of like Star Trek)? I would say it's very unlikely to happen. People tend to prefer the time in their area to match up with the day. So, having the sun come up at 7pm wouldn't s

Re: [time-nuts] Time-zones and World time..

2008-10-30 Thread Steve Rooke
2008/10/31 David Ackrill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I would say it's very unlikely to happen. People tend to prefer the > time in their area to match up with the day. So, having the sun come up > at 7pm wouldn't suit a lot of people. But people would get used to it after a while, maybe a generation,

Re: [time-nuts] Time-zones and World time..

2008-10-30 Thread Chuck Harris
With the great ease of computers to make the transformations, there really isn't any point in removing local timezones. It is just a table after all... it is nothing like the old days when every major town used Local Sidereal Time (eg. 12:00 is when the sun is at its highest). That caused major p

Re: [time-nuts] Time-zones and World time..

2008-10-30 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Chuck Harris wrote: > With the great ease of computers to make the transformations, > there really isn't any point in removing local timezones. It > is just a table after all... it is nothing like the old days when > every major town used Local Sidereal Time (eg. 12:00 is when the > sun is at its

Re: [time-nuts] Time-zones and World time..

2008-10-30 Thread Chuck Harris
Bruce Griffiths wrote: > Chuck Harris wrote: ... >> >> It was recently reported that the onset of DST coincides with an >> increase in heart attacks, and the return to standard time coincides >> with a decrease in heart attacks. Yet another reason to ditch >> Daylight Savings Time. >> >> -Chuck

Re: [time-nuts] Time-zones and World time..

2008-10-30 Thread Brooke Clarke
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Re: [time-nuts] Time-zones and World time..

2008-10-30 Thread Chuck Harris
Brooke Clarke wrote: > Hi Chuck: > > Not all of the U.S. uses DST, so there's a control group. That's true, but it cannot be said that the areas that don't use DST are equivalent to those that do in all respects that might cause heart problems. It is thought the change in sleep/wake patterns is

Re: [time-nuts] Time-zones and World time..

2008-10-30 Thread Robert Darlington
Never mind it happens right before the holidays. I'm stressed either way. On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Chuck Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brooke Clarke wrote: > > Hi Chuck: > > > > Not all of the U.S. uses DST, so there's a control group. > > That's true, but it cannot be said that th

Re: [time-nuts] Time-zones and World time..

2008-10-30 Thread David Forbes
At 9:42 AM -0400 10/30/08, Chuck Harris wrote: >With the great ease of computers to make the transformations, >there really isn't any point in removing local timezones. It >is just a table after all... it is nothing like the old days when >every major town used Local Sidereal Time (eg. 12:00 is wh

Re: [time-nuts] Time-zones and World time..

2008-10-30 Thread Chuck Harris
David Forbes wrote: > At 9:42 AM -0400 10/30/08, Chuck Harris wrote: >> With the great ease of computers to make the transformations, >> there really isn't any point in removing local timezones. It >> is just a table after all... it is nothing like the old days when >> every major town used Local

Re: [time-nuts] Time-zones and World time..

2008-10-30 Thread David C. Partridge
: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Time-zones and World time.. Local Solar Time is the LST I was thinking of... only, I guess 00:00:00 is high noon in LST Maybe Local Sundial Time? -Chuck Harris ___ time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] Time-zones and World time..

2008-10-30 Thread Steve Rooke
2008/10/31 Chuck Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > With the great ease of computers to make the transformations, > there really isn't any point in removing local timezones. It > is just a table after all... it is nothing like the old days when > every major town used Local Sidereal Time (eg. 12:00 is

Re: [time-nuts] Time-zones and World time..

2008-10-30 Thread Chuck Harris
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Chuck Harris > Sent: 30 October 2008 18:49 > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Time-zones and World time.. > > Local Solar Time is the LST I was thinking of... only, I g

Re: [time-nuts] Time-zones and World time..

2008-10-30 Thread Lux, James P
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Harris > Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 12:09 PM > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Time-zones and World time.. > >

Re: [time-nuts] Time-zones and World time..

2008-10-30 Thread Magnus Danielson
Steve Rooke wrote: > Hi, > > I've been under the radar for a while so have not been able to keep up > with the threads I was contributing to but that has been done to death > and I will drop them. I've been very interested in reading peoplels > thoughts on time-zones. Has there been any moves to a

Re: [time-nuts] Time-zones and World time..

2008-10-30 Thread Magnus Danielson
Chuck Harris wrote: > With the great ease of computers to make the transformations, > there really isn't any point in removing local timezones. It > is just a table after all... it is nothing like the old days when > every major town used Local Sidereal Time (eg. 12:00 is when the > sun is at its

Re: [time-nuts] Time-zones and World time..

2008-10-30 Thread Steve Rooke
2008/10/31 Magnus Danielson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > What's this AM and PM stuff got to do with it. You mean you would go up > at 19 rather than 7? Indeed it does mean that, and the 12 hour shift in time works for NZ as compared to UTC because we are pretty close to 180 deg longitude away from Gre

Re: [time-nuts] Time-zones and World time..

2008-10-30 Thread MOSEL Sam
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Rooke > When I communicate with the US, I have to work out which time-zone the place I'm talking to > is in and correct for that. It's probably not so much of a problem for someone in America > as yo

Re: [time-nuts] Time-zones and World time..

2008-11-01 Thread Hal Murray
> When I communicate with the US, I have to work out which time-zone the > place I'm talking to is in and correct for that. It's probably not so > much of a problem for someone in America as you get used to the > time-zone differences but this adds complexity for an outsider. I just > wondered if

Re: [time-nuts] Time-zones and World time..

2008-11-01 Thread Hal Murray
> One can, of course, observe meridian passage for a variety of stars at > night, and from that determine the time (given a calendar and the > appropriate almanac data), so you could directly observe midnight. What does "directly observe" mean? Stars aren't conveniently located where I want the

Re: [time-nuts] Time-zones and World time..

2008-11-01 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi Hal: A sextant is just an angle measuring instrument so can be used in a number of ways. The classical way is to measure the elevation angle of any heavenly that's in your almanac. Note you can determine your latitude from any of these elevation measurements. The method called "lunar dist

Re: [time-nuts] Time-zones and World time..

2008-11-01 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Hal Murray wrote: >> One can, of course, observe meridian passage for a variety of stars at >> night, and from that determine the time (given a calendar and the >> appropriate almanac data), so you could directly observe midnight. >> > > What does "directly observe" mean? > > Stars aren't con

Re: [time-nuts] Time-zones and World time..

2008-11-01 Thread Lux, James P
On 11/1/08 2:28 PM, "Bruce Griffiths" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hal Murray wrote: >>> One can, of course, observe meridian passage for a variety of stars at >>> night, and from that determine the time (given a calendar and the >>> appropriate almanac data), so you could directly observe midn

Re: [time-nuts] Time-zones and World time..

2008-11-01 Thread Sanjeev Gupta
On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 4:49 AM, Hal Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Don't forget too, that solar noon varies quite a bit (minutes) from > > "mean solar time" over the year. If you're navigating your ship with > > noon sun sights, this is pretty important. > > What do I google for if I want

Re: [time-nuts] Time-zones and World time..

2008-11-01 Thread Thomas A. Frank
>> I would say it's very unlikely to happen. People tend to prefer the >> time in their area to match up with the day. So, having the sun >> come up >> at 7pm wouldn't suit a lot of people. > > But people would get used to it after a while, maybe a generation, and > whose to say that the sun sh

Re: [time-nuts] Time-zones and World time..

2008-11-01 Thread Steve Rooke
2008/11/2 Thomas A. Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> But people would get used to it after a while, maybe a generation, and >> whose to say that the sun should come up at 7am, it's really just an >> arbitrary concept. > > > In his book "100 Days" (about the 1982 war in the Falklands), Admiral > Woodwa

Re: [time-nuts] Time-zones and World time..

2008-11-04 Thread Peter Vince
On Sat Nov 1 20:49 , Hal Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: >> Don't forget too, that solar noon varies quite a bit (minutes) from >> "mean solar time" over the year. If you're navigating your ship with >> noon sun sights, this is pretty important. > >What do I google for if I want that correct

Re: [time-nuts] Time-zones and World time..

2008-11-06 Thread Tom Van Baak
>>> Don't forget too, that solar noon varies quite a bit (minutes) from >>> "mean solar time" over the year. If you're navigating your ship with >>> noon sun sights, this is pretty important. >> >>What do I google for if I want that correction? > > This is known as the Equation of Time. I notic