Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery

2011-02-17 Thread shalimr9
measurementtime-nuts@febo.com; W1LEstanw...@verizon.net Reply-To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery Almost any place that sells quality watches will replace the battery for you for about

Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery

2011-02-17 Thread Bill S
As an aside to the watch repair business, a large number of brands primarily Swiss, will no longer supply parts to watchmakers. This has become a big issue among the independent watch repairers in the US. It really is an issue of restraint of trade but is currently unresolved. Though not

Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery

2011-02-17 Thread paul swed
hate say it. Time for the $3 timex On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Bill S w...@jbpet.com wrote: As an aside to the watch repair business, a large number of brands primarily Swiss, will no longer supply parts to watchmakers. This has become a big issue among the independent watch repairers in

Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery

2011-02-17 Thread J. Forster
$12 inflation. -John = hate say it. Time for the $3 timex On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Bill S w...@jbpet.com wrote: As an aside to the watch repair business, a large number of brands primarily Swiss, will no longer supply parts to watchmakers. This has become a big

Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery

2011-02-17 Thread Thomas A Frank
Stan; Here is a source for the necessary tools: http://www.ofrei.com/page557.html Note that they are not inexpensive; something to factor in when you consider the overall cost of maintenance. If it really has been 20 years, there is every possibility that the battery has leaked, in which

Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery

2011-02-17 Thread Chuck Harris
Think long and hard before you try a 2 or 3 pronged wrench on your 6 slotted back. It is almost impossible to not slip with the 2 prong wrench, and the 3 prong Jaxa style is not much better. The manufacturers sold little sheet metal wrenches that engaged all of the slots in the back, and as

Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery

2011-02-16 Thread Bob Camp
. - Original Message - From: cook michael michael.c...@sfr.fr To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 1:03 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery Le 16/02/2011 00:57, Chris Albertson a écrit : How can watches be OT on a time-nuts list

Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery

2011-02-16 Thread paul swed
curious Can you still get batteries for an omega??? On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Raj vu2...@gmail.com wrote: Many decades ago when digital displays and quartz clocks were a novelty, I built a table clock and presented it to my father a watch nut. He regularly teased me that my digital

Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery

2011-02-16 Thread William H. Fite
That estimate is probably about right. It hasn't been quite that expensive for me but then I have a couple of Omegas; gave my Rolex to my nephew years ago. For your money, they remove the movement (or the calibre...or the ébauche et assortiments...depending on how horologically snooty you care

Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery

2011-02-16 Thread Raj
IMHO, you still can get batteries very cheap by todays standards. My dad's watch was mechanical! He bought it in 1956. The time line got a bit distorted in my reply to Bob! curious Can you still get batteries for an omega??? On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Raj vu2...@gmail.com wrote: Many

Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery

2011-02-16 Thread jimlux
On 2/15/11 11:10 PM, cook michael wrote: Le 16/02/2011 07:21, Heathkid a écrit : BLING? Really? Seriously? A watch is considered bling now? Can you build a mechanical watch in your workshop that is as accurate as those manufactured 100 years ago? That's technology! Otherwise, a precision

Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery

2011-02-16 Thread Chuck Harris
I think if we are going to use terminology, we should try to use it correctly. The term ebauche, is very similar to the term engine block. An ebauche is an unfinished movement. It typically has not been fitted with all of the jewels, balance, etc.. In Switzerland, like in Detroit, there are

Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery

2011-02-16 Thread Bob Camp
[mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Harris Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 11:38 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery I think if we are going to use terminology, we should try to use it correctly

Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery

2011-02-16 Thread William H. Fite
I figured someone would pounce on my post. If you think that time nuts can be competitive, try watch nuts. None of us agrees with any of the rest of us, no matter what. It is true that the term ebauche, as it is used in the trade, very often refers to an incomplete movement. It may or may not

Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery

2011-02-16 Thread J. Forster
AHA! The English system triumphs over that Metric nonsense. My Rolex stopped working about 20 years ago. OTOH, my $12 Timex analog quartz still works fine I think. At least it was working when I misplaced it a year ago. Since then, I've discovered I really don't need to know time to much

Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery

2011-02-16 Thread William H. Fite
Approximately 2.25mm (that metric nonsense). [?] On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 3:05 PM, J. Forster j...@quik.com wrote: AHA! The English system triumphs over that Metric nonsense. My Rolex stopped working about 20 years ago. OTOH, my $12 Timex analog quartz still works fine I think. At

Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery

2011-02-16 Thread Bill Hawkins
Well, this thread caused me to dig out a Girard-Perregaux Gyromatic 39 jewel self-winder that my father gave me in the late fifties, after his trip to Switzerland. To your point, the face just has five horizontal lines that cross it. There are no numbers except for the day window. The ends of the

Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery

2011-02-16 Thread William H. Fite
Your GP could very likely be restored to pristine condition. Wouldn't be cheap, though. OTOH, a GP isn't cheap. On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Bill Hawkins b...@iaxs.net wrote: Well, this thread caused me to dig out a Girard-Perregaux Gyromatic 39 jewel self-winder that my father gave

Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery

2011-02-16 Thread Roy Morgan
On Feb 16, 2011, at 3:37 PM, Bill Hawkins wrote: Well, this thread caused me to dig out a Girard-Perregaux Gyromatic 39 jewel self-winder that my father gave me in the late fifties, after his trip to Switzerland. Holy Balance Wheel, Batman, that's some watch! (I joined the group to see

Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery

2011-02-16 Thread lists
I forgot to say that Eric Vittoz, whom I mentioned in the crystal thread, was out of the Swiss Federal Institute. OK, not fine Swiss movements, but fine Swiss engineering, especially low power CMOS design found in quartz watches. ___ time-nuts

[time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery

2011-02-15 Thread Stan, W1LE
Hello The Net: When I retired almost 2 decades ago, I put my wristwatch in a drawer and left it there. I was hoping to never have to use it again. Wishful thinking. Now I need it, but it does not work, battery is depleted. I need to open it up and replace the battery. Any idea how I get my

Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery

2011-02-15 Thread Tom Holmes
- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Stan, W1LE Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 2:44 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery Hello The Net: When I retired almost 2

Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery

2011-02-15 Thread Peter Loron
There are case tools available, but unless you're going to be fiddling with the watch regularly (or just want more tools), it may be best to find a reputable local jeweler or watch specialist to do the work. timezone.com has active forums of watch-nuts, and you may be able to find a

Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery

2011-02-15 Thread EWKehren
You may find that if you left a battery in there you may have other problems. Having some expensive watches I leave that part up to an expert, take it to a watch repair place. Bert Kehren In a message dated 2/15/2011 2:43:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, stanw...@verizon.net writes:

Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery

2011-02-15 Thread Chris Albertson
Almost any place that sells quality watches will replace the battery for you for about the price of the battery. It takes about 5 minutes and they will have the tools and battery You should get most of your $10 bill back as change Typically there are two types of rear covers some are threaded

Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery

2011-02-15 Thread Bob Camp
, but it's gone for a while. Bob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Peter Loron Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 2:52 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery There are case tools

Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery

2011-02-15 Thread William H. Fite
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Peter Loron Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 2:52 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery There are case tools available, but unless

Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery

2011-02-15 Thread Chuck Harris
Rolex... that makes an easy job hard. Rolex typically uses a very strange formed wrench to screw off the back right hand thread, by the way... where every other high quality watch uses a simple case spanner wrench with 6 tangs, Rolex Oyster's have 6 wiggly shaped forms that they repeat to

Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery

2011-02-15 Thread William H. Fite
I defer to your expertise, Chuck. I will just note that when Omega overhauls a mechanical they reset the warranty. And it isn't *that* expensive, especially considering the initial investment. On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Chuck Harris cfhar...@erols.com wrote: Rolex... that makes an

Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery

2011-02-15 Thread Chuck Harris
Reasonable is a matter of opinion. Rolex charges more than $500 for servicing one of their Oyster Perpetuals. The Oysterquartz is a much simpler watch.. (being all electronic), and should be less, but I'd bet it isn't. Also, be very sure that your watch is really a Rolex, with a real Rolex

Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery

2011-02-15 Thread lists
I just take my Rolex to Sears. Then again, my Rolex only cost $10 and was made in Taiwan. ;-) I used to be of the school of just take the watch to any jeweler. More or less true, but I had a battery replacement done at a foo-foo jewelry boutique and no change from my $10. I did get change

Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery

2011-02-15 Thread Chris Albertson
After I wrote just take it to any quality watch retailer I got to thinking, Wow someone actually still uses a wrist watch? If you look around almost no one does because all of our electronic gadgets, cell phones and the like all have LCD screens that display the time. A watch is redundant

Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery

2011-02-15 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 02/16/2011 12:25 AM, Chris Albertson wrote: After I wrote just take it to any quality watch retailer I got to thinking, Wow someone actually still uses a wrist watch? If you look around almost no one does because all of our electronic gadgets, cell phones and the like all have LCD

Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery

2011-02-15 Thread Flemming Larsen
I recently inherited my father's 40-year-old Omega Constellation watch. This watch probably hasn't been used in 15 years or more. I was going to take it to a reputable watch repair shop (Geneva Watch Repair in San Francisco} but have put it off due to the expected cost. What exactly is not

Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery

2011-02-15 Thread Chris Albertson
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Flemming Larsen oz...@yahoo.dk wrote: What exactly is not that expensive if I wanted to send it back to Omega in Switzerland and what is the procedure? Short answer: about $400 but it comes back like new and with a warranty. Longer answer: Note that CHF and

Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery

2011-02-15 Thread lists
My $17 battery went in a Polar heart rate monitoring watch. I have a Junghans atomic watch and of course a Taiwan Rollex. The atomic watch comes in handy for satellite watching in the boonies. I suppose I could use my GPS for the same function.

Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery

2011-02-15 Thread Chuck Harris
Wrist watches are very useful when you don't have pockets. They are also more convenient when you want to know the time without having to fish around in your pockets with a free (or dirty) hand. If I'm going to use a pocket watch, I'll use one of my nice antique railroad watches. -Chuck Harris

Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery

2011-02-15 Thread Chuck Harris
Magnus Danielson wrote: On 02/16/2011 12:25 AM, Chris Albertson wrote: After I wrote just take it to any quality watch retailer I got to thinking, Wow someone actually still uses a wrist watch? If you look around almost no one does because all of our electronic gadgets, cell phones and the

Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery

2011-02-15 Thread Chuck Harris
It takes about 3 hours to take a watch down to its bits, clean it, reassemble, and lubricate everything, and then do a preliminary adjustment. Whatever you earn for 3-4 hours of your time would probably be a reasonable price as long as no parts are required. If you are paying less than that

Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery

2011-02-15 Thread Heathkid
just all strive to make/build a *better* one. - heathkid - Original Message - From: Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery snip Besides this thread

Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery

2011-02-15 Thread Roy Morgan
On Feb 15, 2011, at 2:53 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: Almost any place that sells quality watches will replace the battery for you for about the price of the batteryYou should get most of your $10 bill back as change Chris, Maybe follow on messages to the list have clarified a bit:

Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery

2011-02-15 Thread cook michael
Le 16/02/2011 00:57, Chris Albertson a écrit : How can watches be OT on a time-nuts list? Yes the technology of today is electronic but mechanical time keeping was the center of this art for centuries. I agree , with the caveat that posts keep to technical topics. There are plenty of product

Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery

2011-02-15 Thread Heathkid
like to hear more about mechanical watches. Btw, the tick sounds nice too! - Original Message - From: cook michael michael.c...@sfr.fr To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 1:03 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery Le 16/02/2011 00:57

Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery

2011-02-15 Thread cook michael
: cook michael michael.c...@sfr.fr To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 1:03 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Tool Needed to Access my Timer Battery Le 16/02/2011 00:57, Chris Albertson a écrit : How can watches be OT on a time-nuts list? Yes the technology of today is electronic