Re: [time-nuts] Used Rb Operating Lifetime

2012-01-01 Thread gary
This is just a tweak of the older two antenna scheme. Basically it gets rid of the bidirectional nature of the two antenna version. http://www.homingin.com/newdopant.html Signals that are heavily modulated such as trunking control channels don't work well with such schemes. [That part of the e

Re: [time-nuts] Used Rb Operating Lifetime

2012-01-01 Thread David
I think even my old Icom 706 would work that way. It has the high stability option installed. From what I remember from the service manual, every mixer has its local oscillator frequency locked to the master oscillator through either a PLL or DDS which makes passband shifting via the IF frequenci

Re: [time-nuts] Used Rb Operating Lifetime

2012-01-01 Thread gary
This is an interesting observation regarding the Icom radio that can be run from one master reference. I would assume any radio which has a high accuracy option has this feature. Looking at the block diagram of the R-8500, this appears to be an option. For the R-7100, it looks like it uses one

Re: [time-nuts] Used Rb Operating Lifetime

2012-01-01 Thread Magnus Danielson
David, On 12/31/2011 08:30 PM, David wrote: I agree that they are an amazing value but what kind of operating lifetime do the Rb tubes have? SRS has this to say: Historically, the lifetime of rubidium frequency standards has been dominated by rubidium depletion in the discharge lamp. To avoid

Re: [time-nuts] Used Rb Operating Lifetime

2011-12-31 Thread paul swed
They seem to run a while especially if you reheat the bulb as discussed several times in these threads. So for $38 I am taking the gamble. Have 5 older units and have recovered one of them by reheating the lamp. So far the others are good and I do not run those 24 X 7. Instead should the main g

[time-nuts] Used Rb Operating Lifetime

2011-12-31 Thread David
I agree that they are an amazing value but what kind of operating lifetime do the Rb tubes have? SRS has this to say: >Historically, the lifetime of rubidium frequency standards has been >dominated by rubidium depletion in the discharge lamp. To avoid excess >flicker noise, manufacturers would lo