Re: [time-nuts] Weird T-Bolt elevation readings...

2010-01-14 Thread Ed, k1ggi
nal Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of b...@lysator.liu.se Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 4:09 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Weird T-Bolt elevation readings... Hi Bruce, > T

Re: [time-nuts] Weird T-Bolt elevation readings...

2010-01-14 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Björn In the case of the Thunderbolt with the default WGS84 datum the height is calculated with respect to the MSL geoid. If another datum is selected the height is calculated with respect to the ellipsoid. The attached snapshot from the Thunderbolt book makes this clear. The MSL goeid doesnt

[time-nuts] Weird T-Bolt elevation readings...

2010-01-14 Thread Mark Sims
Yes, the error is almost certainly due to the difference between the true earth surface and the value calculated by the GPS model of the earth surface. The difference is Dallas, Texas is around 26 meters (and John Miles actually does live in a pineapple under the sea, so his altitude is ne

Re: [time-nuts] Weird T-Bolt elevation readings...

2010-01-14 Thread bg
Hi Bruce, > The GPS altitude is calculated with respect to the geoid. No, the GPS calculates altitude wrt the ellipsoid. Then its a conversion with lots of coefficients or a lookup table to add the geoid separation. Altitude wrt to the geoid is the same as Mean Sea level, which is what normal map

Re: [time-nuts] Weird T-Bolt elevation readings...

2010-01-14 Thread Tom Van Baak
I wonder if this is a HAE vs. MSL issue? What is the elevation delta for your location in FL? It's about 18 meters for me in Seattle. Mark, do you know? /tvb Hello, TimeNutters-- While we are on a thread about Trimble T-bolts, perhaps someone might expand on why my T-bolt does not ever come

Re: [time-nuts] Weird T-Bolt elevation readings...

2010-01-14 Thread Bruce Griffiths
The GPS altitude is calculated with respect to the geoid. The geoid surface may have a vertical separation from the actual surface by several meters. This correction varies with location on the Earth's surface. Bruce Michael Baker wrote: Hello, TimeNutters-- While we are on a thread about Tr

Re: [time-nuts] Weird T-Bolt elevation readings...

2010-01-14 Thread Didier Juges
o know about it. Didier --Original Message-- From: Michael Baker Sender: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com To: Time-Nuts ReplyTo: Time-Nuts Subject: [time-nuts] Weird T-Bolt elevation readings... Sent: Jan 14, 2010 2:28 PM Hello, TimeNutters-- While we are on a thread about Trimble T-bolts, perhap

[time-nuts] Weird T-Bolt elevation readings...

2010-01-14 Thread Michael Baker
Hello, TimeNutters-- While we are on a thread about Trimble T-bolts, perhaps someone might expand on why my T-bolt does not ever come up with altitude readings that are even close. After a long fix, the Lat-Lon coordinates are pretty close, but the altitude is always given as around 2 meters. W