Re: [time-nuts] Z3805 incident

2012-11-29 Thread Bob Camp
HI Some simple empirical data: 1) Jumps tend to get further apart as the oscillator ages. 2) AT's have larger jumps than SC's. 3) A typical SC jump is below 1x10^-9 4) It's not a lot of things (spurs, drive, temperature, load,stress, micro-fractures, plating defects) if you need to explain all

Re: [time-nuts] Z3805 incident

2012-11-29 Thread Volker Esper
...and I should see the loop time constant in the ADEV, too - if that is the case, the time constant should be about 2000 s, shouldn't it? (see picture) Volker Am 29.11.2012 05:35, schrieb Said Jackson: Volker, This is a classic crystal jump. The crystal changed its frequency magically fro

Re: [time-nuts] Z3805 incident

2012-11-29 Thread Dennis Ferguson
On 29 Nov, 2012, at 02:32 , Charles P. Steinmetz wrote: >> This is a classic crystal jump. The crystal changed its frequency magically >> from one second to the next and the software compensated for it > > Here is another example of a 3805 having a bad moment. For just about two > minutes,

Re: [time-nuts] Z3805 incident

2012-11-29 Thread Volker Esper
von Volker Esper Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. November 2012 22:24 An: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Betreff: [time-nuts] Z3805 incident When looking at the PPS TI vs. time curve today I felt kind of appalled - a big incident peak (not an outlier) on the curve! See picture. What happ

Re: [time-nuts] Z3805 incident

2012-11-28 Thread Ulrich Bangert
n of precise time and frequency measurement > Betreff: [time-nuts] Z3805 incident > > > When looking at the PPS TI vs. time curve today I felt kind > of appalled > - a big incident peak (not an outlier) on the curve! See picture. > > What happened to my Z3805? Any idea? >

Re: [time-nuts] Z3805 incident

2012-11-28 Thread Said Jackson
Volker, This is a classic crystal jump. The crystal changed its frequency magically from one second to the next and the software compensated for it You can nicely see the time constant of the loop.. Bye Said Sent From iPhone On Nov 28, 2012, at 13:24, Volker Esper wrote: > When looking at t

Re: [time-nuts] Z3805 incident

2012-11-28 Thread Volker Esper
Not Rb but OCXO vs GPS... Am 28.11.2012 22:47, schrieb Azelio Boriani: Ops, I missed the EFC value... On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Azelio Boriani wrote: The reference is still the Rb? Then how you can tell which of the two is doing that... On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 10:24 PM, Volker Esper

Re: [time-nuts] Z3805 incident

2012-11-28 Thread Azelio Boriani
Ops, I missed the EFC value... On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Azelio Boriani wrote: > The reference is still the Rb? Then how you can tell which of the two is > doing that... > > On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 10:24 PM, Volker Esper wrote: > >> When looking at the PPS TI vs. time curve today I felt

Re: [time-nuts] Z3805 incident

2012-11-28 Thread Azelio Boriani
The reference is still the Rb? Then how you can tell which of the two is doing that... On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 10:24 PM, Volker Esper wrote: > When looking at the PPS TI vs. time curve today I felt kind of appalled - > a big incident peak (not an outlier) on the curve! See picture. > > What happ

[time-nuts] Z3805 incident

2012-11-28 Thread Volker Esper
When looking at the PPS TI vs. time curve today I felt kind of appalled - a big incident peak (not an outlier) on the curve! See picture. What happened to my Z3805? Any idea? No entry in the error log, the staus log says 2012-11-28 10:01:30: The Smartclock Status has changed to LOC 2012-11-28