Re: [time-nuts] antennas was Re: Common-View GPS Network

2013-04-18 Thread Chris Albertson
If I read the paper correctly you can skip the choke ring if you mount the antenna on top of a 2 meter or longer mast. Iron pipe comes on 10 foot lengths. The choke ring is for portable survey antenna that can't be placed on tall rooftop masts. I think a 2 meter pole on a roof pretty much

Re: [time-nuts] antennas was Re: Common-View GPS Network

2013-04-18 Thread Jim Lux
On 4/18/13 12:01 AM, Chris Albertson wrote: If I read the paper correctly you can skip the choke ring if you mount the antenna on top of a 2 meter or longer mast. Iron pipe comes on 10 foot lengths. The choke ring is for portable survey antenna that can't be placed on tall rooftop masts. I

Re: [time-nuts] antennas was Re: Common-View GPS Network

2013-04-18 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 04/18/2013 04:00 PM, Jim Lux wrote: On 4/18/13 12:01 AM, Chris Albertson wrote: If I read the paper correctly you can skip the choke ring if you mount the antenna on top of a 2 meter or longer mast. Iron pipe comes on 10 foot lengths. The choke ring is for portable survey antenna that can't

Re: [time-nuts] antennas was Re: Common-View GPS Network

2013-04-18 Thread Tom Knox
start a new thread. Tom Knox act...@hotmail.com Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 19:58:22 +0200 From: mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] antennas was Re: Common-View GPS Network On 04/18/2013 04:00 PM, Jim Lux wrote: On 4/18/13 12:01 AM, Chris Albertson wrote

Re: [time-nuts] antennas was Re: Common-View GPS Network

2013-04-18 Thread Magnus Danielson
know the history of these ,I can find almost nothing. Email me directly if you have info, or I can start a new thread. Tom Knox act...@hotmail.com Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 19:58:22 +0200 From: mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] antennas was Re: Common-View

Re: [time-nuts] antennas was Re: Common-View GPS Network

2013-04-18 Thread bg
Magnus, Jim, On 04/18/2013 04:00 PM, Jim Lux wrote: On 4/18/13 12:01 AM, Chris Albertson wrote: If I read the paper correctly you can skip the choke ring if you mount the antenna on top of a 2 meter or longer mast. Iron pipe comes on 10 foot lengths. The choke ring is for portable survey

Re: [time-nuts] antennas was Re: Common-View GPS Network

2013-04-18 Thread Jim Lux
On 4/18/13 1:40 PM, b...@lysator.liu.se wrote: All of the high quality GNSS receiver manufacturers have their own version of correlator that try to mitigate multipath. See for example this Ashtech-document (for a ca 10 year old L1 only receiver (DG14/16)).

Re: [time-nuts] antennas was Re: Common-View GPS Network

2013-04-17 Thread Chris Albertson
Another way to ask this question is what is the effect of a small deviation form the ideal dimensions? If we assume deviations of about 1/20th of a wavelength are OK then we can allow about 1cm of dimensional error. Almost anyone using simple hand tools can do better. With care using primitive

Re: [time-nuts] antennas was Re: Common-View GPS Network

2013-04-17 Thread lists
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurementtime-nuts@febo.com Reply-To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] antennas was Re: Common-View GPS Network Another way to ask this question is what is the effect of a small

Re: [time-nuts] antennas was Re: Common-View GPS Network

2013-04-17 Thread Jim Lux
On 4/17/13 12:18 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: Another way to ask this question is what is the effect of a small deviation form the ideal dimensions? If we assume deviations of about 1/20th of a wavelength are OK then we can allow about 1cm of dimensional error. Almost anyone using simple hand

Re: [time-nuts] antennas was Re: Common-View GPS Network

2013-04-17 Thread David J Taylor
From: li...@lazygranch.com But the pan is just a ground plane. It isn't a reflector based on the type of antennas I saw in the photograph. = If you are referring to my antenna farm photo, that's correct. It is also magnetic, so it holds the pucks in place.

Re: [time-nuts] antennas was Re: Common-View GPS Network

2013-04-16 Thread Sarah White
On 4/16/2013 1:55 AM, Jim Lux wrote: On 4/15/13 10:22 PM, Jim Lux wrote: On 4/15/13 9:27 PM, Tom Van Baak wrote: NIST SIM GPS common view pinwheel described in one of the NIST reports as an aperture coupled slot fed array that is better than a patch, but not as large and heavy as a choke

Re: [time-nuts] antennas was Re: Common-View GPS Network

2013-04-16 Thread Jim Lux
On 4/16/13 5:19 PM, Sarah White wrote: I just have to ask though... cake pans? really? I can't imagine it would even be possible to modify a cake pan with enough accuracy to get a usable antenna. Sure.. cake pans, like other stamped goods, are actually pretty high precision, because they're

Re: [time-nuts] antennas was Re: Common-View GPS Network

2013-04-16 Thread David J Taylor
From: Sarah White I just have to ask though... cake pans? really? I can't imagine it would even be possible to modify a cake pan with enough accuracy to get a usable antenna. -- Sarah Well, my GPS antenna farm uses an inverted baking tray

[time-nuts] antennas was Re: Common-View GPS Network

2013-04-15 Thread Jim Lux
On 4/15/13 10:22 PM, Jim Lux wrote: On 4/15/13 9:27 PM, Tom Van Baak wrote: NIST SIM GPS common view pinwheel described in one of the NIST reports as an aperture coupled slot fed array that is better than a patch, but not as large and heavy as a choke ring. W. Kunysz, 2000, “High