Re: [time-nuts] metric / English

2011-12-18 Thread Robert Darlington
Up till three or so years ago the VLA (Very Large Array radio telescope) was using a PDP 11/70. Most of the workstations were Sun Ultra 1 systems that were horribly outdated to a point where I had already sent mine to land fill a few years before. Now they have a spiffy Linux cluster on modern

Re: [time-nuts] metric / English

2011-12-17 Thread Chuck Harris
Which works very well, but unlike all of the English thread combinations, you must keep the lathe's half-nuts engaged to the lead screw ALWAYS. That means when you reach the end of the thread, you must stop the lathe, and back it up to the beginning of the thread to make the next cut. With

Re: [time-nuts] metric / English

2011-12-17 Thread Chris Albertson
On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 4:48 AM, Chuck Harris cfhar...@erols.com wrote: Which works very well, but unlike all of the English thread combinations, you must keep the lathe's half-nuts engaged to the lead screw ALWAYS.  That means when you reach the end of the thread, you must stop the lathe, and

Re: [time-nuts] metric / English

2011-12-17 Thread J. Forster
I suspect turret lathes are still used for shortish runs of some of the simpler parts, like bushings and similar parts. Not every shop looks like a NASA facility. -John == On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 4:48 AM, Chuck Harris cfhar...@erols.com wrote: Which works very well, but unlike

Re: [time-nuts] metric / English

2011-12-17 Thread Lee Mushel
Chris, You must be kidding! How old are you? Lee K9WRU - Original Message - From: Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] metric

Re: [time-nuts] metric / English

2011-12-17 Thread Jim Lux
On 12/17/11 9:14 AM, J. Forster wrote: I suspect turret lathes are still used for shortish runs of some of the simpler parts, like bushings and similar parts. Not every shop looks like a NASA facility. Oddly, NASA facilities aren't necessarily the most modern or sophisticated. It takes an

Re: [time-nuts] metric / English

2011-12-17 Thread Chuck Harris
The manual machines are still in use for limited production runs, such as are used in prototype manufacture. Screw machines, and second op lathes see extensive use in manufacturing because they are quicker than CNC machines... that and very cheap to use. I use manual machines because it is

Re: [time-nuts] metric / English

2011-12-17 Thread Lee Mushel
PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] metric / English The manual machines are still in use for limited production runs, such as are used in prototype manufacture. Screw machines, and second op lathes see extensive use in manufacturing because they are quicker than CNC machines... that and very cheap

Re: [time-nuts] metric / English

2011-12-16 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi Don: Sure converting lengths is easy and I have metric, English and weird taps and dies, but how do you turn metric threads? Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.PRC68.com http://www.end2partygovernment.com/Brooke4Congress.html Don Couch wrote: The idea that conversion to metric would

Re: [time-nuts] metric / English

2011-12-16 Thread Collins, Graham
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Brooke Clarke Sent: December 16, 2011 11:49 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] metric / English Hi Don: Sure converting lengths is easy

Re: [time-nuts] metric / English

2011-12-16 Thread Rob Kimberley
With a metric tap die set? :-) -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Brooke Clarke Sent: 16 December 2011 16:48 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] metric / English Hi Don: Sure

Re: [time-nuts] metric / English

2011-12-16 Thread George Dubovsky
Not that hard, actually. My 1984-vintage lathe has an inch lead screw, but the quick-change box that drives the leadscrew will do all of the inch and most metric threads directly. The few weird metric pitches are accommodated by changing two gears on the input side of the QC box. I suppose that at

Re: [time-nuts] metric / English

2011-12-16 Thread Chris Albertson
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Brooke Clarke bro...@pacific.net wrote: Hi Don: Sure converting lengths is easy and I have metric, English and weird taps and dies, but how do you turn metric threads? How would you cut 40 tpi or 24 tpi? You put in the correct gears to drive the lead screw so

Re: [time-nuts] metric / English

2011-12-16 Thread J. Forster
You use the change gears in a ratio of 127:50 (254:100) -John == Hi Don: Sure converting lengths is easy and I have metric, English and weird taps and dies, but how do you turn metric threads? Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.PRC68.com

Re: [time-nuts] metric / English

2011-12-16 Thread J. Forster
There is no error with the change gears. The ratio of inches to centimeters is exactly 1:2.54 or 100:254 or 50:127. It is often done with a train of 3 gear pairs to get the center-to-center shaft spacing right. -John = Not that hard, actually. My 1984-vintage lathe has an inch

Re: [time-nuts] metric / English

2011-12-16 Thread Chris Albertson
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 9:45 AM, George Dubovsky n4ua...@gmail.com wrote: . I I... suppose that at some very small level, there is some error in the metric threads produced (and I've never bothered to calculate it for my lathe) but it's a VERY small error that has never been an issue for

Re: [time-nuts] metric / English

2011-12-16 Thread Neville Michie
I have small British lathe (Myford) with a 1/8 inch leadscrew, and a 127 tooth gear is inconveniently large. By examining the ratio of every gear for every thread required (with a simple basic program) I found a solution within 50 parts per million for all metric threads. The wierdest threads

Re: [time-nuts] metric / English

2011-12-16 Thread Don Couch
: Re: [time-nuts] metric / English To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Date: Friday, December 16, 2011, 9:48 AM Hi Don: Sure converting lengths is easy and I have metric, English and weird taps and dies, but how do you turn metric threads? Have

Re: [time-nuts] metric / English

2011-12-15 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi Chris: Yes. In hospitals they are measuring your height in feet and inches, but your weight is in kg (6' 1 120 kg). Sort of like tire sizes which use inches for the wheel diameter and mm for the section width (P215/65R15 - 215mm section width, 15 rim diameter). Even more interesting