Re: [time-nuts] moon bounce for synchronization

2016-01-31 Thread EB4APL
We were not measuring frequency but clock offset. The frequency offset was estimated from the daily clock measurements. If I remember correctly we got .1 uS accuracy. We had several Rubidium, Cesium and later a H-maser frequency standards and we kept continuous recordings (strip charts) of the

Re: [time-nuts] moon bounce for synchronization

2016-01-30 Thread jimlux
On 1/30/16 4:27 PM, Hal Murray wrote: eb4...@gmail.com said: Back to the Control Room you contact the transmitting station (I think it was DSS12) by voice to insure that they have the station manned and transmitting, and began to operate the "thing". The transmission were specific for each rec

Re: [time-nuts] moon bounce for synchronization

2016-01-30 Thread Hal Murray
eb4...@gmail.com said: > Back to the Control Room you contact the transmitting station (I think it > was DSS12) by voice to insure that they have the station manned and > transmitting, and began to operate the "thing". The transmission were > specific for each receiving station, because all the c

Re: [time-nuts] moon bounce for synchronization

2016-01-30 Thread Bill Hawkins
] moon bounce for synchronization Ooh! Ooh! Not only a 5245 with a 5265 voltmeter plug-in but a 5360 Computing Pig! Great picture, thanks for posting it. Jeremy N6WFO On 1/30/2016 6:16 AM, jimlux wrote: > This month's historical picture from JPL > http://beacon.jpl.nasa.gov/historical-p

Re: [time-nuts] moon bounce for synchronization

2016-01-30 Thread Jeremy Nichols
If you look closely at the picture, you'll see that it's an "L," but there isn't quite enough resolution to say whether it's a 5245L or a 5248L. Probably 5245L because most 5248s had the hi-accuracy (for the era!) standard and were sold as 5248M. Jeremy On 1/30/2016 11:47 AM, Norm n3ykf wrot

Re: [time-nuts] moon bounce for synchronization

2016-01-30 Thread EB4APL
I was a lot of times at the other side of the link, the receiving end, those days (and I also have no hair). The procedure was cumbersome: you have to climb to the roof to manually point a small parabolic antenna to the moon using handwheels and a rifle scope. The antenna had an hourangle electr

Re: [time-nuts] moon bounce for synchronization

2016-01-30 Thread Dave Brown
couple of the 12 GHz plugins. 73 Dave ZL3FJ - Original Message - From: "Norm n3ykf" To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] moon bounce for synchronization HP 5245M to be exact. Th

Re: [time-nuts] moon bounce for synchronization

2016-01-30 Thread Andy ZL3AG
Hat tip to the 8405A Vector Voltmeter in the other rack. Yeah. Great photo! On Jan 31, 2016, at 7:43 AM, Jeremy Nichols wrote: > Ooh! Ooh! Not only a 5245 with a 5265 voltmeter plug-in but a 5360 Computing > Pig! Great picture, thanks for posting it. > > Jeremy > N6WFO > ___

Re: [time-nuts] moon bounce for synchronization

2016-01-30 Thread jimlux
On 1/30/16 10:43 AM, Jeremy Nichols wrote: Ooh! Ooh! Not only a 5245 with a 5265 voltmeter plug-in but a 5360 Computing Pig! Great picture, thanks for posting it. Jeremy N6WFO I like how none of the push buttons in the panel below the counters have labels, either on the faceplate or on the bu

Re: [time-nuts] moon bounce for synchronization

2016-01-30 Thread Norm n3ykf
HP 5245M to be exact. There's one in my rack. Different plugin, same time base. Still works at 5 GHz. On Saturday, January 30, 2016, Jeremy Nichols wrote: > Ooh! Ooh! Not only a 5245 with a 5265 voltmeter plug-in but a 5360 > Computing Pig! Great picture, thanks for posting it. > > Jeremy > N6WF

Re: [time-nuts] moon bounce for synchronization

2016-01-30 Thread Jeremy Nichols
Ooh! Ooh! Not only a 5245 with a 5265 voltmeter plug-in but a 5360 Computing Pig! Great picture, thanks for posting it. Jeremy N6WFO On 1/30/2016 6:16 AM, jimlux wrote: This month's historical picture from JPL http://beacon.jpl.nasa.gov/historical-photo-of-the-month This atomic clock was use

[time-nuts] moon bounce for synchronization

2016-01-30 Thread jimlux
This month's historical picture from JPL http://beacon.jpl.nasa.gov/historical-photo-of-the-month This atomic clock was used at the Goldstone Time Standards Laboratory in 1970, to synchronize clocks at Deep Space Network stations around the world. This master clock was accurate to plus or minus