Re: [time-nuts] phase noise in digital divider, 2nd harmonic

2016-07-29 Thread Graham / KE9H
It is not traditional phase noise, and not a normal Nyquist filtering problem, but, yes, presence of significant second harmonic energy in your DDS output will shift/dither your squaring input. It is hard, with practical filters and filter components to get much better coverage than one-half octav

Re: [time-nuts] phase noise in digital divider, 2nd harmonic

2016-07-29 Thread Attila Kinali
On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 23:39:24 + (UTC) life speed via time-nuts wrote: > The DDS tunes over more than an octave, so obviously the single low pass > filter isn't going to cut it. I am noticing up to 3 dB phase noise > degradation at the output of the divider as the DDS frequency decreases and

[time-nuts] phase noise in digital divider, 2nd harmonic

2016-07-28 Thread life speed via time-nuts
Hi, Been a while since I visited, I recall there are many, well, time nuts here. I am trying to track down a source of phase noise in a frequency synthesizer design. One part of the frequency reference upconverts a DDS and then divides it down again using a digital divider - standard techniqu