The best inventions are the ones that nobody ever thought to ask for. If
Edison had done marketing studies, he would have spent his life designing
incremental improvements to gas lights. Nobody asked him to invent the
electric light.
First let me say that what I'm about to write is
It's the international science and engineering fair, so both kinds show
up.
The line between applied science and engineering is pretty fuzzy.
There is another category. I'm not sure what the right term is. How about
just having fun?
I think it's neat to see an experiment or demo that
measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] science projects
It's the international science and engineering fair, so both kinds
show up.
The line between applied science and engineering is pretty fuzzy.
There is another category. I'm not sure what the right term is. How
about just having fun?
I
On 2/10/12 1:37 AM, Hal Murray wrote:
It's the international science and engineering fair, so both kinds show
up.
The line between applied science and engineering is pretty fuzzy.
There is another category. I'm not sure what the right term is. How about
just having fun?
Most
On 2/10/12 2:05 AM, Chris Dawes wrote:
Thanks Hal,
Will have to visit next time I am in San Fran sounds interesting
Makes a nice, but busy, day to do the Exploratorium and the California
Academy of Sciences/Steinhart Aquarium. They're pretty close to each
other, so it's not like you have
Hi Jim
Thank you for your reply, especially for your input on how science fair is
judged. I've saved your reply and I'll be sure to read over it again
before regional competition in a few weeks!
No I have not done any research into Peter Siegel's work...Thanks for
pointing that out to me.
Hi Jim:
Check out:
http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/clifford_stoll_on_everything.html
Here's part of an email from Clifford:
Oh, the speed of light?
For detectors, I use two fast-response photodiodes and feed their outputs into
opamps.
The experiment uses one cheap laserpointer (they cost
I think it's odd that all these science projects are NOT doing any
science. They sound like engineering to me.
So you build a neat mouse trap? That is not science unless you have a
theory about mouse behavior and your trap is intended to test the
theory.Around here we do have these
My experiments with CW laser diodes is that they don't take well to
being switched on and off with out a soft start.
They will only last a certain number of on off cycles before output begins
to drop and they quit working. Perhaps something
has changed in the last few years.
I need to
Do not be misled by the conventional theory that scientists develop a
theory
and then do an experiment to prove it.
This theory was dreamed up by some vertical thinker who was incapable
of any scientific progress. It has been reinforced by commentators who
reconstruct the path of discovery
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Neville Michie namic...@gmail.com wrote:
Do not be misled by the conventional theory that scientists develop a theory
and then do an experiment to prove it.
This theory was dreamed up by some vertical thinker who was incapable
of any scientific progress.
Yes
Fellow time scientists,
Here's my view of the difference between science and engineering:
Someone with better measuring equipment finds a discrepant result
while verifying some physical law or accepted truth. That person
needs to know the existing truths and create ideas about testing
the new
On 2/9/12 8:23 AM, Chris Albertson wrote:
I think it's odd that all these science projects are NOT doing any
science. They sound like engineering to me.
So you build a neat mouse trap? That is not science unless you have a
theory about mouse behavior and your trap is intended to test the
Yes, a fun project, and a fine physics lab exercise. But not a good
science fair project because it doesn't meet the originality bar.
This is something that I confess I had a hard time figuring out what
that meant when I was entering science fairs... as it happened, my
projects *were*
On 2/9/12 4:00 PM, Bill Hawkins wrote:
Fellow time scientists,
Here's my view of the difference between science and engineering:
snip
If marketing studies show a positive return on investment, engineers
are turned loose to solve the problems revealed as the details of
building or
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net wrote:
On 2/9/12 8:23 AM, Chris Albertson wrote:
I think it's odd that all these science projects are NOT doing any
science. They sound like engineering to me.
So you build a neat mouse trap? That is not science unless you have
If marketing studies show a positive return on investment, engineers
are turned loose to solve the problems revealed as the details of
building or manufacturing the new thing are studied.
The best inventions are the ones that nobody ever thought to ask for. If
Edison had done marketing studies,
While delayed, I would think that the signal freqs would still need to
be maintained... hmmm, maybe not... interesting science project...
anyone? anyone? ;-)
Jerry
I'm waiting to see a good time-nuts project at the science fair. (at any
level up to ISEF)
There's a lot of good
The number one TN science fair project would have to be measuring the
speed of light using some simple, inexpensive method such as
reflecting sunlight from rotating mirrors
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net wrote:
While delayed, I would think that the signal freqs
Hi guys
My 2 cents...from first person experience ;-) (although this doesn't have
much to do with frequency standard-related science fair projects...)
I am actually a high school junior in one of Dallas/Ft Worth, Texas's,
suburbs, and I have been competing in ISEF science fairs for the last 3
On 2/8/12 6:03 PM, Chris Albertson wrote:
The number one TN science fair project would have to be measuring the
speed of light using some simple, inexpensive method such as
reflecting sunlight from rotating mirrors
Actually, that's probably not a good project: it's been done, in almost
On 2/8/12 7:37 PM, Ray Xu wrote:
Hi guys
My 2 cents...from first person experience ;-) (although this doesn't have
much to do with frequency standard-related science fair projects...)
I am actually a high school junior in one of Dallas/Ft Worth, Texas's,
suburbs, and I have been competing in
On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 21:37:36 -0600
Ray Xu rayxu...@gmail.com wrote:
I am actually a high school junior in one of Dallas/Ft Worth, Texas's,
suburbs, and I have been competing in ISEF science fairs for the last 3
years.
[...]
This year, I'm working on making a monolithic CMOS THz imaging array
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