Re: [time-nuts] the end of light bulbs as we know it was Re: Safe power-up. was (Solartron 7075 ...)

2011-10-12 Thread David VanHorn
some consumer action. From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Hal Murray [hmur...@megapathdsl.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 11:37 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] the end of light bulbs as we know it was Re:

Re: [time-nuts] the end of light bulbs as we know it was Re: Safe power-up. was (Solartron 7075 ...)

2011-10-12 Thread John Howell
Your mention of bridges Chris reminds me that the British Post Office developed quartz oscillators in the early 1940s that used filament lamps for amplitude stabilisation in a bridge circuit. Stabilities of ±1 part in 10 to the 8th were achieved. John H. On 12 Oct 2011, at 06:00, Chris Alberts

Re: [time-nuts] the end of light bulbs as we know it was Re: Safe power-up. was (Solartron 7075 ...)

2011-10-12 Thread Gerald Molenkamp
Hi Hal, Good timing, good point. Just got home, switched on radio to look at 1300MHz rx signal strength, it is clean up there. Thunderbolt works fine here. Noise is from crude switcher with almost no filtering. Regards Gerald VK3GJM On 12/10/2011, at 17:25, "Hal Murray" wrote: > >> Now to

Re: [time-nuts] the end of light bulbs as we know it was Re: Safe power-up. was (Solartron 7075 ...)

2011-10-11 Thread Hal Murray
> Now to the negative part , noise floor from around 21MHz to well over 500MHz > raised to a signal strength 5 to 6 across mid to upper HF / lower VHF to > upper UHF with them switched on, otherwise my noise floor is Zero. > Lower VHF to UHF SSB/FM low level signal work is now not possible when

Re: [time-nuts] the end of light bulbs as we know it was Re: Safe power-up. was (Solartron 7075 ...)

2011-10-11 Thread Chris Albertson
Another connection from Time Nuts to incandescent light bulbs is the early HP Wien bridge oscillators. They used the light bulb for amplitude stabilization. This light bulb stabilized oscillator is what put the HP company on the map. There was a time when these oscillators where the best availabl

Re: [time-nuts] the end of light bulbs as we know it was Re: Safe power-up. was (Solartron 7075 ...)

2011-10-11 Thread John Howell
Sorry Tom, (again!), Just as significant is the radiation from compact fluorescent lamps, many radiate strongly in the 50-60KHz region from their SMPSs. This has been the reason for failure of several clocks I am aware of that are tuned to radiocode transmissions on 60KHz. John H. On 12 Oct 2

Re: [time-nuts] the end of light bulbs as we know it was Re: Safe power-up. was (Solartron 7075 ...)

2011-10-11 Thread Gerald Molenkamp
Hi All, Sorry Tom, worth a mention. I replaced all of my down lights after my Kids wanted us to contribute to lowering our carbon footprint. On the positive side, moving to LEDs will provide savings around $107/year in electricity charges. Now to the negative part , noise floor from around 21M

Re: [time-nuts] the end of light bulbs as we know it was Re: Safe power-up. was (Solartron 7075 ...)

2011-10-11 Thread Peter Gottlieb
There is one angle that was not covered, but which is relevant (at least to those of us using any LF or HF time receivers). Over the weekend I bought my first LED bulb. It was on sale and I wanted to see how it worked. On the package it gave a warning that it could interfere with HF communic

Re: [time-nuts] the end of light bulbs as we know it was Re: Safe power-up. was (Solartron 7075 ...)

2011-10-11 Thread Alan Melia
Mmmm but halogens dont have a lot of life run at below the rated spec ! Alan G3NYK - Original Message - From: "Chris Albertson" To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 11:29 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] the end of li

Re: [time-nuts] the end of light bulbs as we know it was Re: Safe power-up. was (Solartron 7075 ...)

2011-10-11 Thread John Howell
Incandescent lamps also have the property of a cold resistance very much lower than that at design voltage. Used in series with drills and bathroom fans this gives a useful current surge at switch-on. And the [time-nuts] connection? I use a torch bulb in series with the drive to a dry cell powe

Re: [time-nuts] the end of light bulbs as we know it was Re: Safe power-up. was (Solartron 7075 ...)

2011-10-11 Thread Tom Van Baak
This thread is wonderful, nostalgic, technical, futuristic, and appropriate for someone's list. But not time-nuts. Please stop it now. Don't reply. /tvb ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bi

Re: [time-nuts] the end of light bulbs as we know it was Re: Safe power-up. was (Solartron 7075 ...)

2011-10-11 Thread David VanHorn
My Lava Lamps will be ok, if I can still get resistors. :) ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] the end of light bulbs as we know it was Re: Safe power-up. was (Solartron 7075 ...)

2011-10-11 Thread Chris Albertson
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Neville Michie wrote: > Incandescent light bulbs are very useful... > ...It will be a pity to see them turn to unobtainium. There is no plan for them to go away (at least in California), halogen bulbs meet the new energy standards. -- Chris Albertson Redondo Bea

Re: [time-nuts] the end of light bulbs as we know it was Re: Safe power-up. was (Solartron 7075 ...)

2011-10-11 Thread Neville Michie
Incandescent light bulbs are very useful. They are a high dissipation resistor with a lot of uses. I have one in series with a bathroom ceiling fan, just kept plugging smaller watt values in until the fan was quiet enough but still fully functional. I have one in series with a micro drill press

[time-nuts] the end of light bulbs as we know it was Re: Safe power-up. was (Solartron 7075 ...)

2011-10-11 Thread Mark Sims
I now have my house converted over completely to LED bulbs... over 300 of them (mostly PAR16/PAR20/PAR30/PAR38 bulbs)! At retail the cost would have been over $15,000 dollars!!! Totally insane... I have a large closet totally dedicated to light bulbs.When incandecents/halogens are no