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   1. Re: HP10544a Technical Info needed (Dr Bruce Griffiths)
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   4. Re: HP10544a Technical Info needed (Dr Bruce Griffiths)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 17:01:14 +1300
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Gerald Molenkamp wrote:
> Hi Howard,
>
> Please find attached a schematic of the 10544, hope it helps in anyway.
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Gerald
>
Gerald

The connection of the 10K oven monitor resistor R12 in the schematic is 
incorrect.
In this position only the very small deviations in the oven supply 
voltage due to its finite output impedance will be seen as Q4 turns on 
and off.
The resistor should surely be connected to the junction of the 
darlington (Q4) emitter and the oven heater winding resistor??
The datasheet clearly states that the duty cycle of the oven monitor 
varies, as is seen with working 10544As.

Bruce



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Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 20:10:53 -0800
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> Hi Howard,
> 
> Please find attached a schematic of the 10544, hope it helps in anyway.

Wonder where you got that one ;-)

http://www.leapsecond.com/museum/10544/

I scanned and posted that in 2001; but didn't check the
manual against an actual 10544 oscillator. Should be
close enough for a repair, though.

/tvb
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Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 15:21:44 +1100
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Hi Bruce,

You are right. I havn't checked my unit against the schematic at all. It is 
well secured calibrated and operating in my HP 5342 operating well within 
the specifications. The scanned schematic came from Leapsecond a few years 
ago, and I have not had to use it as yet. Lets hope it stays that way.

Cheers

Gerald


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> Gerald Molenkamp wrote:
>> Hi Howard,
>>
>> Please find attached a schematic of the 10544, hope it helps in anyway.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Gerald
>>
> Gerald
>
> The connection of the 10K oven monitor resistor R12 in the schematic is
> incorrect.
> In this position only the very small deviations in the oven supply
> voltage due to its finite output impedance will be seen as Q4 turns on
> and off.
> The resistor should surely be connected to the junction of the
> darlington (Q4) emitter and the oven heater winding resistor??
> The datasheet clearly states that the duty cycle of the oven monitor
> varies, as is seen with working 10544As.
>
> Bruce
>
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Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 17:32:07 +1300
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Gerald

Its about 30 years since I had one of these apart for (sucessful) repair 
without the aid of any circuit diagram.
At least one can calculate that the nominal crystal current is about 240 
uA rms somewhat less than the 1mA in the 10811 with its SC cut crystal.

Bruce
Gerald Molenkamp wrote:
> Hi Bruce,
>
> You are right. I havn't checked my unit against the schematic at all. It is 
> well secured calibrated and operating in my HP 5342 operating well within 
> the specifications. The scanned schematic came from Leapsecond a few years 
> ago, and I have not had to use it as yet. Lets hope it stays that way.
>
> Cheers
>
> Gerald
>   



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Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 17:54:45 +1300
From: Dr Bruce Griffiths <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Howard

Attached GIf file depicts the recommended power supply filtering when 
the oven circuit shares the same supply as the oscillator.

Bruce

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