Re: [time-nuts] Power lines and time

2005-08-22 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Chuck Harris writes: Uhm, sorry, that is just plain wrong. The Ferrantis (sp?) power meter which is the most widely used meter in the world is not frequency sensitive within a band of +/- 10% or more. I have never seen a power meter made by Ferranti in the US.

Re: [time-nuts] Power lines and time

2005-08-22 Thread John Day
At 10:00 AM 8/22/2005, you wrote: Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bill Hawkins writes : Power companies bill on time-integrated power - watt-hour meters in the US. Watt-hour meters are still mostly driven by electric clocks, in a way. The frequency does matter. Uhm,

Re: [time-nuts] Power lines and time

2005-08-22 Thread Chuck Harris
John Day wrote: I have never seen a power meter made by Ferranti in the US. Try Siemens or ABB then, Ferranti has been taken over if I recall. The term is actually Ferraris, after Galileo Ferraris, the inventer of the AC induction motor. As far as I can tell, he had nothing to do with

RE: [time-nuts] Power lines and time

2005-08-22 Thread Bill Hawkins
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote, quoting me, Power companies bill on time-integrated power - watt-hour meters in the US. Watt-hour meters are still mostly driven by electric clocks, in a way. The frequency does matter. Uhm, sorry, that is just plain wrong. The Ferrantis (sp?) power meter which is the

Re: [time-nuts] Power lines and time

2005-08-22 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bill Hawkins writes : 1. It is unlikely that any power network just lets itself go, with no standard time/frequency to hold. The under-frequency relays would make that hazardous. Does not follow. Well, it doesn't follow from the watt-hour meter, but look at the