Re: [time-nuts] Portable Time Standard

2019-01-11 Thread jimlux
On 1/11/19 12:26 PM, Bob kb8tq wrote: Hi The most common approach to “monitor” a quartz movement is to listen to it at 32,768 KHz with a tuned microphone. If it is an analog movement, then one can detect the sound of the motor driving the mechanical side. Do you need a device with a visual read

Re: [time-nuts] Portable Time Standard

2019-01-11 Thread jimlux
On 1/11/19 11:57 AM, Joe Hobart wrote: I need a relatively lightweight, self powered, portable clock accurate to 1 second per month. Temperatures may range from 10 to 35 C; altitude from 1000 to 7000 feet. Although expensive, some of the marine quartz chronometers appear to meet this requiremen

[time-nuts] Expected behaviour from net4501, oncore and ntpns?

2019-01-11 Thread Toby Riddell
Hi all, I got my Soekris net4501 hooked up to an oncore module and antenna and ntpns has been talking nicely to the oncore. After a couple of hours it started to serve NTP to a client however the time shown for the net4501 on the NTP client is approx. 600s slow (see last line): $ ntpq -p rem

[time-nuts] Division and resolution

2019-01-11 Thread Gilles Clement
Hi, Can we consider that the phase data record obtained from a Divided Frequency source is equivalent to reducing resolution from the phase data record obtained from the undivided source ? In such case the “effect of data resolution” discussion from following paper: http://www.leapsecond.com/pa

Re: [time-nuts] Portable Time Standard

2019-01-11 Thread Jim Harman
You might try a telephone pickup coil to detect the magnetic "ticks" from a quartz clock. They even come with a plug and a suction cup! On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 3:34 PM Tim Shoppa wrote: > > I am not an expert in every quartz clock mechanism BUT a 1-10mH nonshielded > inductor makes an excellent

Re: [time-nuts] Portable Time Standard

2019-01-11 Thread Tim Shoppa
Many of the 70's/80's Japanese marine quartz chronometers had a test button that gave you an audible beep every second. I am not an expert in every quartz clock mechanism BUT a 1-10mH nonshielded inductor makes an excellent pickup for the "ticks" from any quartz clock or watch that I've ever met.

Re: [time-nuts] Portable Time Standard

2019-01-11 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi The most common approach to “monitor” a quartz movement is to listen to it at 32,768 KHz with a tuned microphone. If it is an analog movement, then one can detect the sound of the motor driving the mechanical side. Do you need a device with a visual readout or are you after something that

[time-nuts] Thunderbolt+PRS10+TAPR/TICC

2019-01-11 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
I am wanting some general advice on the following: I currently have among my timing-related devices a couple of Trimble Thunderbolts (a silver one w/ the inbuilt power supply and a gold flat one), a PRS10, and a TAPR/TICC. My current end goal is to use these to get an idea of the quality of the 1

[time-nuts] Portable Time Standard

2019-01-11 Thread Joe Hobart
I need a relatively lightweight, self powered, portable clock accurate to 1 second per month. Temperatures may range from 10 to 35 C; altitude from 1000 to 7000 feet. Although expensive, some of the marine quartz chronometers appear to meet this requirement. ~0.3 PPM. Does anyone have any experi

Re: [time-nuts] Short term 10MHz source (and unrelated comment)

2019-01-11 Thread Leo Bodnar
Magnus, I am very sorry for speaking out of turn. Few messages earlier you have referred to the raw PPS and I thought I might offer an insight to what is happening inside Ublox chipset hardware that is otherwise not know to vast majority of its users, including most members here. I only speak up

Re: [time-nuts] Misuse of word "decimate" (was Re: Short term 10MHz source)

2019-01-11 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <293ce126-e9ef-40a2-e742-966d638cf...@rubidium.se>, Magnus Danielson writes: I can add that as of this morning, "decimate" is also used for the act of reading only every Nth email in a long thread :-) -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org