Re: [time-nuts] Ublox Neo M8T no output on TP2 question please?

2019-01-23 Thread Chris Wilson
Hello Time Nuts, Tuesday, January 22, 2019 The Ublox M8T is now fixed! For future reference this is what was wrong. CSG Shop ship various versions of this GPS module on a generic board, as far as I can tell, and reading between the lines. Some versions need this jumper across two of the thre

Re: [time-nuts] HP Stories: Frequency Counter business

2019-01-23 Thread johnk0...@juno.com
Let's not forget dymec.For the younger crowd, write 'dymec' on a piece of paper and then look at it upside down, just the first two letters.John K0GCJ -- Original Message -- From: Bob via time-nuts To: time-nuts@lists.febo.com Cc: millerk...@aol.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP

[time-nuts] Good clean-up oscillators

2019-01-23 Thread Magnus Danielson
Fellow time-nuts, While we often look at long-term stability, ADEV etc. we consider oscillators in their free-running properties. This is all fine and dany, but when we want to use an oscillator as a clean-up oscillator, the servo-loop with surpress much of the low-frequency/high-tau propertie

Re: [time-nuts] HP Stories: Frequency Counter business

2019-01-23 Thread paul swed
And by gosh I have a dymec 60 KHz receiver that still works. I restored it. Those were back in the real timing days with npl wwvb and others. None of these satellite things. Chuckle By the use of the clever label they could cover both product lines. HP and Dymec. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Wed, Jan 23

Re: [time-nuts] HP Stories: Frequency Counter business

2019-01-23 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi John: Like this: dymec logo is "hp" turned upside down -- Have Fun, Brooke Clarke, N6GCE https://www.PRC68.com http://www.end2partygovernment.com/2012Issues.html axioms: 1. The extent to which you can fix or improve something will be limited by how well you understand how it works. 2. Every

Re: [time-nuts] Good clean-up oscillators

2019-01-23 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi If you take a look at typical TCXO’s and XO’s in a real world environment, their noise is higher than a similar OCXO even at 100 Hz. If you are cleaning up something like a Rb, your loop may well be below 1Hz. Like everything else, it becomes a “that depends” sort of thing. If your cleanu

Re: [time-nuts] Good clean-up oscillators

2019-01-23 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message , Magnus Danielson writes: >Consider for instance that we have a LPRO rubidium and we want to use a >clean-up oscillator to provide better phase-noise, what would be a good >selection? There are special devices for this, like Vectrons TRU-50, but they are hard to get hold o

Re: [time-nuts] Good clean-up oscillators

2019-01-23 Thread Mark Goldberg
I'm using a Wenzel Phase Lock Oscillator as a "clean up" oscillator for my Bodnar GPSDO. I lack the capability to measure if it really can do as they advertise, but the 1 kHz away phase noise is claimed to be in the -170 dBc/Hz range. The ADC noise floor keeps me from measuring anywhere near that l

Re: [time-nuts] Ublox F9P multi-band GPS receiver

2019-01-23 Thread Angus via time-nuts
Hi, It doesn't look like the F9P does anything special for timing - the timing specs given in the F9T spec sheet are 5 ns (1-sigma, clear sky, absolute mode) and +/- 4ns jitter, but for the F9P are 30ns RMS and 60ns for 99%. I think I want an F9T :) Angus. On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 09:00:33 -0500, yo

[time-nuts] HP History with Dymec: "Becoming Hewlett Packard. Why Strategic Leadership Matters"

2019-01-23 Thread Rice, Hugh (IPH Writing Systems)
Hello Time Nuts, Being a bit new to HP (only 35 years), I never head of Dymec before. A quick Google search yielded this link, which is an excerpt from the book "Becoming Hewlett Packard, Why Strategic Leadership Matters." You can read about 10 pages of the book from the preview, which ta

Re: [time-nuts] HP History with Dymec: "Becoming Hewlett Packard. Why Strategic Leadership Matters"

2019-01-23 Thread Tom Van Baak
> Being a bit new to HP (only 35 years), I never head of Dymec before. This web page gives the best coverage of Dymec that I've seen: http://hpmemoryproject.org/news/dymec/dymec_page_00.htm You'll recognize much of that era's test equipment. Also near the end are many photos showing the dy upsid

Re: [time-nuts] HP History with Dymec: "Becoming Hewlett Packard. Why Strategic Leadership Matters"

2019-01-23 Thread jimlux
On 1/23/19 7:02 PM, Tom Van Baak wrote: Being a bit new to HP (only 35 years), I never head of Dymec before. This web page gives the best coverage of Dymec that I've seen: http://hpmemoryproject.org/news/dymec/dymec_page_00.htm Y fascinating stuff - I'll have to ask some of the older JPLer

Re: [time-nuts] Good clean-up oscillators

2019-01-23 Thread jimlux
On 1/23/19 12:43 PM, Magnus Danielson wrote: Fellow time-nuts, While we often look at long-term stability, ADEV etc. we consider oscillators in their free-running properties. This is all fine and dany, but when we want to use an oscillator as a clean-up oscillator, the servo-loop with surpres

Re: [time-nuts] HP History with Dymec: "Becoming Hewlett Packard. Why Strategic Leadership Matters"

2019-01-23 Thread Tom Curlee
Speaking of books about HP, I highly recommend "Bill and Dave: How Hewlett and Packard Built the Worlds Greatest Company". It covers the history of HP including the development of many of the landmark pieces of test equipment, the HP business model, and the company expansion from the garage to

[time-nuts] Prescalers ?

2019-01-23 Thread Mark Spencer
Hi: I'm pondering ways I can use my collection of time interval counters (most of which also have frequency counter modes) to measure the frequency of signals at frequencies up to 1.3 GHz. None these units will deal with frequencies higher than 512 MHz. Does anyone have any suggestions for

Re: [time-nuts] Good clean-up oscillators

2019-01-23 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
On 1/23/2019 7:59 PM, jimlux wrote: My idea was to get an OCXO without the oven (or with the oven disabled) - the idea was that an OCXO will have high Q for good phase noise, and I can deal with the frequency shift due to frequency and aging in the long term in other ways As it happens, i