Re: [time-nuts] Rubidium Cells for Sale ?!

2019-05-07 Thread David I. Emery
On Tue, May 07, 2019 at 11:37:46AM -0400, William H. Fite wrote: > And it drives SpaceX nuts. Likely the other privates, as well. SpaceX > recovers a faulty part or system, analyzes the problem, resolves it, tests > the revision, and is ready to go. "No no," says NASA. "First we must have a >

Re: [time-nuts] Rubidium Cells for Sale ?!

2019-05-07 Thread jimlux
On 5/7/19 2:16 PM, Bob kb8tq wrote: Hi Well, given the price, running it in a thermal-vac chamber would not significantly increase the charges to your credit card :) But perhaps Poul-Henning was thinking about the gravitational force. So you could buy two, and drop them alternately down a

Re: [time-nuts] Quartz resonator aging - Vacuum backfill and getters

2019-05-07 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi Helium is still a pretty good thermal conductor at low pressures. The reason you backfill is thermal. Neon (or other heavy atom gasses) are relatively poor thermal conductors. Getters are wonderful as long as they don’t outgas. Turns out that is not as simple a thing to “fix” as you might

Re: [time-nuts] Rubidium Cells for Sale ?!

2019-05-07 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi Well, given the price, running it in a thermal-vac chamber would not significantly increase the charges to your credit card :) Bob > On May 7, 2019, at 3:23 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > > In message , Bob kb8tq writes: > >> In terms of “I don’t want one” …. well, they are

Re: [time-nuts] Rubidium Cells for Sale ?!

2019-05-07 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message , Bob kb8tq writes: >In terms of “I don’t want one” …. well, they are pretty much the best Rb ever >made anywhere / ever. They are as close as you will get to a maser and >not *be* a maser. Rumours has it that the design is optimized for space use and therefore not quite as

Re: [time-nuts] Rubidium Cells for Sale ?!

2019-05-07 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi It was EG Frequency Products back when I worked for them (not in Salem, but still the same division). They then bought Perkin Elmer and changed the name. Now they seem to be somebody else ..,.,. === You can go into whatever loops you care to about the way space products are done. The

Re: [time-nuts] Rubidium Cells for Sale ?!

2019-05-07 Thread William H. Fite
And it drives SpaceX nuts. Likely the other privates, as well. SpaceX recovers a faulty part or system, analyzes the problem, resolves it, tests the revision, and is ready to go. "No no," says NASA. "First we must have a workgroup to define the problem. Then we must have a workgroup to identify

Re: [time-nuts] Rubidium Cells for Sale ?!

2019-05-07 Thread Ed Palmer
On 2019-05-07 10:00 AM, Bruce Griffiths wrote: As expected the seller doesn't know, but offered 2 cells for the price of one if further info on the cells he's offering can be provided. Determining the cell filling would likely be somewhat interesting/challenging. Absorption spectroscopy

Re: [time-nuts] Restoring a Datum PRS-50

2019-05-07 Thread Warren Kumari
On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 4:00 PM Clint Jay wrote: > I've just laid my hands on a Datum PRS-50 Cesium reference which 'released > the magic smoke'. > A common problem with these is the capacitors in the main PSU but these > have already been replaced by the previous owner. > > Unfortunately when he

Re: [time-nuts] Paper tip: Atomic Clocks for Geodesy

2019-05-07 Thread Jim Palfreyman
73 pages! On Tue, 7 May 2019 at 9:38 pm, Ole Petter Ronningen wrote: > Hi, all > > I just stumbled across a nice review paper from last year: ( > https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1803/1803.01585.pdf) that perhaps > others > will find interesting. > > Primarily geared towards geodesy as the

Re: [time-nuts] Paper tip: Atomic Clocks for Geodesy

2019-05-07 Thread Arnold Tibus
Many thanks Ole, I just read it, in fact very interesting! regards Arnold Am 07.05.2019 um 12:48 schrieb Ole Petter Ronningen: Hi, all I just stumbled across a nice review paper from last year: ( https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1803/1803.01585.pdf) that perhaps others will find interesting.

Re: [time-nuts] Garmin WNRO

2019-05-07 Thread Jason Rabel via time-nuts
I'm not sure if there is such a page, but IIRC they do make note on the device firmware update changelog if there was a fix applied related to WNRO... > Is there a listing of Garmin GPS devices that have > a WNRO problem - their support page doesn't state > which ones have a problem. > > We

[time-nuts] Paper tip: Atomic Clocks for Geodesy

2019-05-07 Thread Ole Petter Ronningen
Hi, all I just stumbled across a nice review paper from last year: ( https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1803/1803.01585.pdf) that perhaps others will find interesting. Primarily geared towards geodesy as the title indicates, but it also looks at several techniques of interest to time-nuts, such