[time-nuts] HP 104AR Oscillator

2020-03-25 Thread Ed Palmer
I recently picked up a very old (~1962) HP 104AR oscillator. After replacing three bad Tantalum capacitors, it's working fine. The frequency is a few PPM low, but I'll leave it for a month or two before I try to adjust it. ADEV is measuring < 5e-11 from 2 to > 2000 sec. as compared to an

Re: [time-nuts] Accuracy results with Trimble Thunderbolt?

2020-03-25 Thread Frank O'Donnell
Tom, Thanks very much, that's a great list and will keep me busy for some time. At the hobbyist level, are there time interval counters or frequency counters that are particularly popular, and/or that pair well with the listed software? Frank On 3/25/20 2:30 PM, Tom Van Baak wrote:

Re: [time-nuts] Noise Floor

2020-03-25 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi The amplifier board was sitting in mid air with no shielding. Stray pickup from who knows where *is* a possibility. Bob > On Mar 25, 2020, at 6:32 PM, John Miles wrote: > >> -Original Message- >> From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@lists.febo.com] On Behalf Of >>

Re: [time-nuts] Noise Floor

2020-03-25 Thread John Miles
> -Original Message- > From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@lists.febo.com] On Behalf Of > kb...@n1k.org > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 9:46 AM > To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Noise Floor > > Phase noise looks pretty good.

Re: [time-nuts] Accuracy results with Trimble Thunderbolt?

2020-03-25 Thread Tom Van Baak
Frank, The software that most of us use to create Allan deviation plots is free and not that hard to use. You will need ascii numerical phase or frequency data, e.g., from a time interval or frequency counter. 1) Stable32, by Bill Riley See:

Re: [time-nuts] Noise Floor

2020-03-25 Thread kb8tq
Hi Gain without an input termination will very much depend on the source you are driving it from. With a "proper" 50 ohm source, the gain will be 6 db high without the input resistor. If it's got more gain than that, your source is not 50 ohms. There are a lot of OCXO's out there that are

Re: [time-nuts] Noise Floor

2020-03-25 Thread Charles Steinmetz
Taka Kamiya wrote: I've been playing around with Clifton amplifier as well. Mine, input is terminated with 50 ohm register, and rest is unmodified, so it has 6dB gain. I have a 10dB pad on input side. I, too, noticed there will be a severe clipping with driving it too hard.* * * I

Re: [time-nuts] Accuracy results with Trimble Thunderbolt?

2020-03-25 Thread Frank
Big thanks to Attila, Frank, and Taka for your responses to my questions on my Trimble Thunderbolt. I'm inclined to follow Taka's advice and reset the antenna elevation mask angle with LH's FE command to something between 10 and 20 degrees. I'm guessing that this is entered in degrees (i.e.

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 188, Issue 38 EU mains frequency

2020-03-25 Thread Andre
Hey folks! Re. mains frequency can I modify the scanner here? I think its one of the EM 240 units made by Brennenstuhl It reads voltage and current somewhat accurately, but not frequency. -Andre From: time-nuts on behalf of

Re: [time-nuts] Noise Floor

2020-03-25 Thread Taka Kamiya via time-nuts
I've been playing around with Clifton amplifier as well.  Mine, input is terminated with 50 ohm register, and rest is unmodified, so it has 6dB gain.  I have a 10dB pad on input side.  I, too, noticed there will be a severe clipping with driving it too hard.  I plan to zero the gain and retest. 

Re: [time-nuts] Mains frequency data for Europe

2020-03-25 Thread folkert
> Does someone here have recordings of the mains frequency of the west > European Grid from the last weeks and from the same time last year? > There is something I've been told which I would like to fact-check. > I wasn't able to find anything online. Is this of any use to you? past 30 days: