Re: [time-nuts] Buffer amplifier, OP Amp, vs MMIC, vs discrete?

2020-04-04 Thread Tobias Pluess
Hi Tim it is this amp which I mean: http://www.techlib.com/files/lowamp.pdf Actually I dont care too much about TO92 because I mostly use SMD parts anyways. Using dead-bug technique, they are even suitable for prototypes and experiments. Tobias On Sat., 4 Apr. 2020, 13:41 Tim Shoppa, wrote:

Re: [time-nuts] PRS-10 PPS output

2020-04-04 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi Pulling the output of a normal CMOS gate to ground through a small resistor is not generally a good idea. That’s what an attenuator or far end termination of the coax is doing. It’s not specifically outlawed in the spec, but it’s still not what they are designed to do. Also the output level

Re: [time-nuts] PRS-10 PPS output

2020-04-04 Thread Joseph Gwinn
On Fri, 03 Apr 2020 20:00:59 -0400, time-nuts-requ...@lists.febo.com wrote: Re: time-nuts Digest, Vol 189, Issue 7 - > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2020 15:48:50 -0400 > From: Bob kb8tq > To: Discussion of precise time and

Re: [time-nuts] Buffer amplifier, OP Amp, vs MMIC, vs discrete?

2020-04-04 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
Some vendors say "LF-1GHz" etc instead of the misleading "DC". True DC coupled amplifiers are a different universe. They must be differential. Search for differential amplifier IC'S from the usual suspects. You will find that the NF will be at least 7 dB and up. I'm not exactly sure why, but

Re: [time-nuts] Buffer amplifier, OP Amp, vs MMIC, vs discrete?

2020-04-04 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi The file you reference is showing a rather complex single mixer setup. It simply omits the mixer from the schematic. The audio amplifier that is part of that setup is going to improve the measurement floor by a couple of db. With most people saying that it’s way to complex to set up to

Re: [time-nuts] Buffer amplifier, OP Amp, vs MMIC, vs discrete?

2020-04-04 Thread Tim Shoppa
Tobias, are you talking about the Wenzel AF Preamp that uses paralleled JFET's? That uses a 2SK369 JFET which is actually still in production and distribution and commonly available in TO-92 even. (Contrast with J310 which was once pure jellybean but today no longer made new in TO-92!!!) Tim

Re: [time-nuts] Buffer amplifier, OP Amp, vs MMIC, vs discrete?

2020-04-04 Thread Didier Juges
Search for Wenzel in the Manuals pages on my web site www.ko4bb.com Didier KO4BB On Sat, Apr 4, 2020, 5:25 AM Dana Whitlow wrote: > What is a "Wenzel amp"? Are you referring to the broad line of amplifiers > made by Wenzel Assoc? > You sound like you've got some insight into what is inside

Re: [time-nuts] Buffer amplifier, OP Amp, vs MMIC, vs discrete?

2020-04-04 Thread David C. Partridge
If you look at the way the power is supplied to and output is taken from an MMIC there's no way that I can see that they could go all the way to DC as there's always a capacitor in the output ... I got all excited a while back when I considered an MMIC for a project because the spec said