Re: [time-nuts] HP 10811 versions for 5065A

2020-07-20 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi Corby, This is where the phase-noise properties becomes relevant, as the phase noise at 137 Hz and 274 Hz will be relevant as it will add to the noise of the physical package to be down-converted by the synchronous detection as it goes into the loop, and through that affect the stability for lo

[time-nuts] HP 10811 versions for 5065A

2020-07-20 Thread cdelect
Magnus and Tom, Thanks. I'm not (and don't want to be!) a phase noise nut! However I am an Allan Deviation nut and have documented many 5065A with the 10811 retrofit that drop into the -14ths between 64 and 128 Sec and the best show 4.5X10-14th at 1000 Sec. So I'd say the original circuit does

Re: [time-nuts] HP 10811 versions for 5065A

2020-07-20 Thread Tom Van Baak
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Re: [time-nuts] HP 10811 versions for 5065A

2020-07-20 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi Corby, On 2020-07-20 19:55, cdel...@juno.com wrote: > Magnus, You mentioned: > > "The produced noise is at least 10 dB worse than you > would expect. This impacts long term stability response as I have > reported earlier." > > Can you refer me to the info you posted earlier or elaborate? I po

Re: [time-nuts] Some GPSDO measurements with an upgraded 53131A

2020-07-20 Thread Matthias Welwarsky
Hi, decided to follow up with a little sanity check: I pitted my DiY attempt against a "commercial" GPSDO, a Trimble branded UCCM, sourced from Ebay. Of course I have no idea whether the Trimble still meets specs, or what these specs even are, but I think all in all I'm doing not so badly with

[time-nuts] HP 10811 versions for 5065A

2020-07-20 Thread cdelect
Magnus, You mentioned: "The produced noise is at least 10 dB worse than you would expect. This impacts long term stability response as I have reported earlier." Can you refer me to the info you posted earlier or elaborate? Thanks, Corby ___ time-nuts

[time-nuts] 74ACT160 100MHz divide by 10

2020-07-20 Thread Bob Martin
I haven't been following all the posts on this topic and apologize if repeating someone else's observations. There are dip versions of the 74ACT160N that will do 100MHz over temperature depending on the manufacturer. The MC74act160N is a dip part available from Ebay at 10 for $10.00. The package