Re: [time-nuts] Spectracom 8161 "Standard Frequency Receiver - Oscillator" for WWVB (and question...)

2020-10-04 Thread Bill Byrom
That's a very old WWVB receiver! * As you can see from that photo, that model was introduced before NIST was created from NBS in 1988 (see the "NBS OUTPUT" BNC). * The "WWVB Continuous Monitored" label appears to be a Tektronix internal calibration sticker. You can see the Tek "bug" logo (CRT

Re: [time-nuts] Spectracom 8161 "Standard Frequency Receiver - Oscillator" for WWVB (and question...)

2020-10-04 Thread paul swed
Bill Thats exactly why they showed up. Though I still tend to see silly prices. Heck serious humor you still see the GOES satellite Truetime DC468s for sale again at silly costs and thats been dead since 2001 or so. (Unless you have a GOES simulator) So you are right GPSDOs have taken their place

Re: [time-nuts] Spectracom 8161 "Standard Frequency Receiver - Oscillator" for WWVB (and question...)

2020-10-04 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi You *can* do all the work to get a WWVB based device running, it’s not impossible. Compared to a GNSS based device, the WWVB has a number of issues. The biggest is the twice a day ionosphere based disruption. There is no practical way to get around that. The net result of the this and the o

Re: [time-nuts] Spectracom 8161 "Standard Frequency Receiver - Oscillator" for WWVB (and question...)

2020-10-04 Thread Bill Notfaded
Is this why so many really high end devices are basically dumped on eBay now? I wondered why SRS device was so cheap now considering price of the SR620. It's too bad they don't work anymore. I'm sure when this happened it was a HUGE let down to many here that were using them? What's the best mo

Re: [time-nuts] Spectracom 8161 "Standard Frequency Receiver - Oscillator" for WWVB (and question...)

2020-10-04 Thread paul swed
Agree with Bobs comment. The 180 degree phase flip killed all of the gear unless significant mods are done or the d-psk-r is used. Great old boxes though. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Sun, Oct 4, 2020 at 3:15 PM Bob kb8tq wrote: > Hi > > This is another of the many devices out there that pre-date the

Re: [time-nuts] FS: Spectracom 8161 "Standard Frequency Receiver - Oscillator" for WWVB (and question...)

2020-10-04 Thread Kirk Bailey
Magnus, Thanks for the manual pointer! A quick scan doesn't offer me much insight to what the mod might be for (likely have to open it up as you suggest). The basic unit gives you the option of phase-locking the internal standard osc to WWVB with an output at .1, 1, 5, or 10 MHz , and you ca

Re: [time-nuts] La Crosse UltrAtomic 404-1235UA-SS wall clock

2020-10-04 Thread Tom Van Baak
Greg, The flat glass is about 1.6 mm think (likely 1/16th inch). This dimension isn't critical. The diameter is 336 mm, not a mm more. 335 or 334 would also work, but not less than that. I have an extra glass piece from tear-downs. Yours if you want it. Contact me off-list at t...@leapseco

Re: [time-nuts] La Crosse UltrAtomic 404-1235UA-SS wall clock

2020-10-04 Thread WB6BNQ
Hi Greg, Assuming he purchased it new, why doesn't he make a claim against the shipper or talk to the sender about it ? Would seem easier than trying to get a lens cut from a locol supplier. BillWB6BNQ On 10/4/2020 9:54 AM, Gregory Beat via time-nuts wrote: Has anyone measured the size

[time-nuts] La Crosse UltrAtomic 404-1235UA-SS wall clock

2020-10-04 Thread Gregory Beat via time-nuts
Has anyone measured the size of Glass Lens used in the La Crosse UltrAtomic 404-1235UA-SS wall clock? My brother’s clock was received with a broken lens, and I am not near my clock (to disassemble) for taking to measurements. == I believe that this lens is FLAT (not Concave), 14 inches in diamete

Re: [time-nuts] Spectracom 8161 "Standard Frequency Receiver - Oscillator" for WWVB (and question...)

2020-10-04 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi This is another of the many devices out there that pre-date the “modern” 180 degree phase modulation approach on WWVB. Getting one of these to run properly with the new modulation approach would take some major mods ….. Bob > On Oct 4, 2020, at 10:23 AM, Magnus Danielson wrote: > > Hi, >

Re: [time-nuts] FS: Spectracom 8161 "Standard Frequency Receiver - Oscillator" for WWVB (and question...)

2020-10-04 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi, I got a bit curious, so I dug up the manual (Available from Orolia that Spectracom is part of): https://www.orolia.com/sites/default/files/document-files/8161_manual.pdf It is apparent that the reference oscillator is actually free-running but compared to the WWVB, so you manually tune it to