Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Dephaser Question

2020-10-17 Thread John C. Westmoreland, P.E.
Hello Time Nuts, Maybe this should be added to this thread - this page is actually pretty good: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WWVB 73's, John AJ6BC On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 12:50 PM John C. Westmoreland, P.E. < j...@westmorelandengineering.com> wrote: > Hello Time Nuts, > > Paul, I haven't gon

Re: [time-nuts] What's available in the way of DSP for new WWVB?

2020-10-17 Thread Graham / KE9H
One of the problems with the iMX RT series, is that any processor below the 1064 (Teensy 4.0 and 4.1 use 1062) do not have any internal FLASH. It is all external in a separate FLASH chip sitting out there waiting to be read by your competitors. So, the iMXRT has a bunch of boot time complexity, opt

Re: [time-nuts] Assistance needed to understand some V_OCXO stability concepts.

2020-10-17 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi Oven supply sensitivity and oven temperature sensitivity are two different (and independent) aspects of the oscillator. One magnitude of one parameter does not predict the magnitude (or direction) of the other parameter. Indeed changes in either voltage or temperature will have an impact, th

Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: cheap frequency extension for timepod

2020-10-17 Thread Oz-in-DFW
I don't know what a timepod is in this context. The only reason you'd need a 17dBm drive mixer if if you'd exceed the RF or LO port input level of the SRA-1. (Clean) square wave drive for a diode ring mixer is /preferred/. Oz (in DFW, Texas) On 10/17/2020 7:59 AM, Gerhard Hoffmann wrote: > > >

Re: [time-nuts] cheap frequency extension for timepod

2020-10-17 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi I’m not quite sure I understand the "2 DIL 80 MHz-oscillators” part. If you have the power divider, isn’t one oscillator going to do the job? = Isolation between the two channels can turn into a bit of a nightmare ….. Bob > On Oct 17, 2020, at 8:59 AM, Gerhard Hoffmann > wrote: > >

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Dephaser Question

2020-10-17 Thread paul swed
The teensy arrived and was easily installed in the arduino IDE. Worked right off the bat. The wiring of the A/D and the TFT display is a bit less clear. I have all of the details but need to go over them carefully. The teensy 4.0 is slightly different in the pins used as compared to the various doc

Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: cheap frequency extension for timepod

2020-10-17 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
FWIW, I have done PN measurements at 144 MHz with the TimePod and a Frankenstein's laboratory lashup of 80 MHz ULN, HP doubler to 160 MHz, HP mixer, and several amp and filter blocks. As far as I can tell, it worked pretty well; at least, I could discern the PN difference among several sources

Re: [time-nuts] cheap frequency extension for timepod

2020-10-17 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi The TimePod is a measurement device designed by John Miles. It will accept an input up to just above 30 MHz. If you want to look at something above that frequency, you need a downconverter. The TimePod will handle inputs up into the 15 to 20 dbm range. If one wished to preserve this capability

Re: [time-nuts] cheap frequency extension for timepod

2020-10-17 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi I would *think* that the phase noise out of the down converter channel would be the DUT + LO. If indeed you have DUT A + LO B and DUT C + LO D, you then have a lot of A + B vs C + D stuff to sort out …. Bob > On Oct 17, 2020, at 2:48 PM, John Ackermann N8UR wrote: > > FWIW, I have done PN

Re: [time-nuts] Assistance needed to understand some V_OCXO stability concepts.

2020-10-17 Thread Joe & Gisela Noci
Thanks for your response Bob. In my implementation, the OCXO has two supply inputs - one for the Oscillator, +18V and one for the Oven , +24V. They are both linear regulators, but fed from the same +32V DC unreg source. The EFC voltage consists of two parts, a -7V fixed supply, derived from and Ana

Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: cheap frequency extension for timepod

2020-10-17 Thread John Miles
> -Original Message- > From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@lists.febo.com] On Behalf Of > Gerhard Hoffmann > Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2020 5:59 AM > To: time-nuts@lists.febo.com > Subject: [time-nuts] Fwd: cheap frequency extension for timepod > . . . > I have 2 17 dBm SRA1-WH, but

Re: [time-nuts] Assistance needed to understand some V_OCXO stability concepts.

2020-10-17 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi (see below) > On Oct 17, 2020, at 4:22 PM, Joe & Gisela Noci wrote: > > Thanks for your response Bob. > In my implementation, the OCXO has two supply inputs - > one for the Oscillator, +18V and one for the Oven , +24V. They are both > linear regulators, but fed from the same +32V DC unreg so

Re: [time-nuts] Assistance needed to understand some V_OCXO stability concepts.

2020-10-17 Thread Joe & Gisela Noci
Hi Bob. I do appreciate you taking the time to read my lengthy stories and helping enlighten me! I am very green with respect to this subject and the underlying physics, but it remains a fascinating challenge. From your comments I realise that I may in fact be inventing issues because of my lack o